Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:52 am  

Cant believe there isn't a thread for the biggest game of the season so here goes.

Saints, runaway leaders and with the LLS already in their trophy cabinet, take on pre season relegation candidates which, at the start of the season, you would have got unbelievable odds for predicting.
No surprise that Saints are there and they go into the game as clear favourites, although the bookies are giving Salford only 10 points start on the handicap, which seems to show some respect.
Battle hardened contenders against Champions elect.

It would be a brave man to back against Saints, who will want to lose their "choking" tag and the way that they rolled over Wigan a couple of weeks ago seems to indicate that they mean business.

However, Salford made equally light work of despatching the Pies and IF they can keep it close for the first 20 (or take the lead), this could be one hell of a final.

As a neutral, it would be great to see the underdog prosper but, as long as it's a decent contest and hopefully close until the final hooter, who cares.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:28 am  

Given there was only 2 points in our last game, Saints can't take anything for granted.

I'm hoping for a clear winning margin of 20 points so I can relax on the day, but expecting it to be more like 8 or 6 points come the final whistle.

From a Saints point of view we need to keep our errors low.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:55 am  

Thousands of tickets left in the top tier behind the sticks at BOTH ends of the stadium! Including the last few rows which havnt been released for sale.

Top tier of the north stand (4084) not on sale.

Why o why as a sport cant we sell out these big events!

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:21 pm  

Play like we did against Wigan and we'll win. Play like we did at Wembley and we'll almost certainly lose.

Getting the big game nerves already.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:17 pm  

It's hard to post anything without sounding arrogant. Saints are a better side than Salford and if we play at or near a 'good' performance we win the game. With Saints however that's a huge 'if'. Salford have been amazing this year and it'll be a brilliant thing for the sport and Super League as a competition if the 'Leicester' moment can happen. I'll be near suicidal if it does, but it would show the rest of the teams that it is possible. When you've got teams like Warrington and Wigan giving up at the end of the season as they don't think they can win it, it would show it's possible. I wouldn't say it's a 50:50 game, but Salford have a great chance if they can perform like they have in previous weeks. First try I feel will be hugely significant. Saints score first and it'll relax them, Salford score first and it'll make them feel unstoppable and make Saints panic like they so often do in finals.

The low salary cap is working to compress the competition and whilst it's degrading the quality, we're now in a position where any team could win it most seasons. Only the superior youth systems at Saints, Leeds, Wigan and Warrington will ensure they make more finals and are generally strong. But this would show the Huddersfields, Wakefield, Catalans and Cas's of the world that it's doable.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:22 pm  

Salford are a very dangerous side who carry lots of threat, can score lots of points and are playing for a place in history.

Massive challenge for Saints - I think it will be very close indeed.

Hopefully we don't have anything controversial and the best side on the day wins it. I would be devastated if we missed out but wouldn't begrudge Salford the trophy.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:57 pm  

RagingBull wrote:

Thousands of tickets left in the top tier behind the sticks at BOTH ends of the stadium! Including the last few rows which havnt been released for sale.

Top tier of the north stand (4084) not on sale.

Why o why as a sport cant we sell out these big events!

Looking at the number of green seat available it only looks like 1000 behind the sticks on the west side. So not 1000s.

As to why they don't sell out.

Well saints have an average attendance of roughly 11k.
Salford 3-4k

So for a stadium of +70k. You need to have 4 times the regular numbers of fans.

I imagine most clubs can double their regular base. But that requires selling the rest of the seats to neutrals or people who go for an occasion.

In the end what matters is whether the game is financially stable.

A quick wiki will show that the grand final has grown as an event. Leveling off at between 68k - 72k.

With interest peaking as new match ups are made, last year being the exception.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:53 pm  

Absolutely can't wait for this one. Cas was great, Wigan was dreamlike, so I have absolutely no idea what the hell Saturday is going to be like! I hope it's a good game, I really do. Would be a shame to see a runaway scoreline as everyone expects and that the little club who are perennial underachievers can do themselves justice on the day.

Please don't let it be too easy for us Saints...

PS. Yes it's a joke, before anyone accuses me of getting ahead of myself.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:32 pm  

SaleSlim wrote:

Absolutely can't wait for this one. Cas was great, Wigan was dreamlike, so I have absolutely no idea what the hell Saturday is going to be like! I hope it's a good game, I really do. Would be a shame to see a runaway scoreline as everyone expects and that the little club who are perennial underachievers can do themselves justice on the day.

Please don't let it be too easy for us Saints...

PS. Yes it's a joke, before anyone accuses me of getting ahead of myself.

We can recognise a joke in St helens. You have to be able to laugh otherwise our final performances would make you cry.

Re: Grand Final Saints v Salford : Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:42 pm  

RagingBull wrote:

Thousands of tickets left in the top tier behind the sticks at BOTH ends of the stadium! Including the last few rows which havnt been released for sale.

Top tier of the north stand (4084) not on sale.

Why o why as a sport cant we sell out these big events!

I think there will be around 62k so about 10k off capacity but that will just mean the very back of the alex ferguson stand and the top corners of each end empty. Still come over well there on TV and atmosphere will not suffer so don't worry.