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Post Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:04 pm
Posted by Pacific on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:04 pm
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Can anyone plese let me know what good John Winder has done since he became assistant coach??

We've lost exciting attacking coaches in Harris and Deacon and replaced them with a bloke who has never in his life played rugby at the highest level. It seems since he joined our current slump set in where we are bland and boring and predictable?

In my opinion if Wane isnt sacked we need to bring in a world class attacking based coach to teach the team some flair. Also we need Lenangen to finally spend some money and sign 3 or 4 world class players to get us back to the top level
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Post Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:36 pm
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Can anyone plese let me know what good John Winder has done since he became assistant coach??

We've lost exciting attacking coaches in Harris and Deacon and replaced them with a bloke who has never in his life played rugby at the highest level. It seems since he joined our current slump set in where we are bland and boring and predictable?

In my opinion if Wane isnt sacked we need to bring in a world class attacking based coach to teach the team some flair. Also we need Lenangen to finally spend some money and sign 3 or 4 world class players to get us back to the top level


where is the cap money coming from, your already the only team with 2 marquee players and I can not believe you are not spending your full cap money on what you already have so you need to off load and pay players off ? is that what you mean because you can not simply just go buy 5 or 6 world class players
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:36 am
Posted by Rogues Gallery on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:36 am
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where is the cap money coming from, your already the only team with 2 marquee players and I can not believe you are not spending your full cap money on what you already have so you need to off load and pay players off ? is that what you mean because you can not simply just go buy 5 or 6 world class players


No we are not.
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:00 am
Posted by Pieman on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:00 am
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No we are not.


think we are
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:09 am
Posted by Itchy Arsenal on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:09 am
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think we are

Not sure but Lomax and Barba at Saints?
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:22 am
Posted by Wigg'n on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:22 am
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Not sure but Lomax and Barba at Saints?


Roby and Barba I believe?

Salford have at least one. As do Catalans.

We only have a second to stop him going to the NRL!
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:33 am
Posted by jonh on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:33 am
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Roby and Barba I believe?

Salford have at least one. As do Catalans.

We only have a second to stop him going to the NRL!



I'd have let him go.

He wouldn't be there long.
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:51 pm
Posted by RichieS on Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:51 pm
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and the laughable thing is the best team in the league by a long shot don't have nor look like even needing a 'marquee' player!

This argument will consistently go round in circles and always comes back to having a coach that can get the best out of these players regardless of what salary they are on...Daryl Powell has extracted every last bit of talent from a good set of players and by God it has shown, they look formidable. He is a top quality coach surrounded by other good coaches that all know the game and know the game plan that suits their squad.

The problem Wigan have is simple, we have a good squad of players resembling square pegs that are trying to play a system that is a round hole. Until this is rectified we will struggle. The players we have signed/re-signed have the nucleus of a great 1-13 but trying to play a system that simply does not and will not suit them.
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:00 pm
Posted by Leythersteve on Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:00 pm
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From a outsider looking in O loughlin looks knackered lately. Still very good but knackered. As for a leader on the park. Don't think you have one anymore. I know. I' m a Leyther
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[quote="Leythersteve"]From a outsider looking in O loughlin looks knackered lately. Still very good but knackered. As for a leader on the park. Don't think you have one anymore. I know. I' m a Leyther[/quote

Utter crap mate. O'Loughlin has looked every inch the best player in superleague every time he's taken the field. Our record without him is played 8 lost 8. More tellingly in most of the games he's played this season almost all our points have been scored with him on the pitch and almost all points conceded when he's off. If that's knackered then give me 16 other equally knackered players and I'll guarantee a Grand Final win.

If, on the other hand, you're saying he's at the end of his career then you'd be absolutely right. Now that IS worrying!
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