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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:52 am
Posted by Wilde 3 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:52 am
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John Bateman
George Burgess
Sam Burgess
Tom Burgess
Daryl Clark
Jake Connor
Luke Gale
James Graham
Joe Greenwood
Chris Hill
Josh Hodgson
Tom Johnstone
Jonny Lomax
Reece Lynne
Tommy Makinson
Jermaine McGillvary
Adam Milner
Sean O'Loughlin
Mark Percival
Stefan Ratchford
Luke Thompson
Sam Tomkins
Elliot Whitehead
George Williams
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:57 am
Posted by Wilde 3 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:57 am
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my side from that would be

Tomkins - McGillvary - Makinson - Percival - Johnstone - Connor - Gale - Graham - Hodgson - T.Burgess - S. Burgess - Whitehead - O'Loughlin

Luke Thompson - G. Burgess - Bateman - Clark

I really liked Makinson at Centre in the game in Denver, so would give him a run there. It might end up being Connor there, but I would have him at 6 all day long
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:24 am
Posted by Trainman on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:24 am
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I assume Widdop and Roby must be injured. Two notable omissions.

As a nation we are very weak at centre. I hope Percival can take his club form to Internationals.

I’d go

Tomkins
McGilvray
Connor
Percival
Johnstone
Williams/Lomax (currently undecided)
Gale
Graham
Hodgeson
T Burgess
S Burgess
Whitehead
O’Loughlin

G Burgess
Hill
Bateman
Clark
Re: England Squad v NZ
Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:25 am
Posted by Grimmy on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:25 am
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Is it me or is the squad a bit back-heavy? I count 3 Full Backs and 4 Wingers, would rather us not have taken Ratchford and one of Makinson/Lyne, and used the two extra spots on Taylor and a young hooker. Would have liked to have seen Gildart and Richardson in there also. From that side I'd go:

1. Tomkins
2. McGillvary
3. Connor (would have preferred Gildart)
4. Percival
5. Johnstone
6. Williams
7. Gale
8. Graham
9. Hodgson
10. Thompson
11. S.Burgess
12. Whitehead
13. O'Loughlin

14. G.Burgess*
15. T.Burgess*
16. Clark (would have preferred Richardson)
17. Greenwood

*I don't watch much NRL. Swap Hill in if either of those two are off form
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:28 am
Posted by Wilde 3 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:28 am
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Grimmy wrote:
Is it me or is the squad a bit back-heavy? I count 3 Full Backs and 4 Wingers, would rather us not have taken Ratchford and one of Makinson/Lyne, and used the two extra spots on Taylor and a young hooker. Would have liked to have seen Gildart and Richardson in there also.


Taylor carried the Hull pack this year on his own, but has played with a shoulder problem all year, which I assume is the reason he isn't in the squad
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:35 am
Posted by Grimmy on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:35 am
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Taylor carried the Hull pack this year on his own, but has played with a shoulder problem all year, which I assume is the reason he isn't in the squad

I've always thought he's been unlucky to not get more England caps. He's not listed amongst the injured on the BBC website. Still think we could have done with another prop. Maybe Cooper or Amor?
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:36 am
Posted by Matt_Horton on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:36 am
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:07 am
Posted by chapylad on Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:07 am
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Is Liam Watts no longer deemed suitable?
From the games I`ve seen him play he has done pretty well and should be included in the squad at least.
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:22 am
Posted by rollin thunder on Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:22 am
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predictable squad almost identical to last years. both Burgess twins particularly Tom are average players, getting picked on the size competition they play in and reputation of older Brother. Both can not catch, drop the ball much too often, give too many penalties away.
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Post Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:25 am
Posted by tigertot on Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:25 am
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Weak in the centres. I hope Bateman isn't slotted in there again.
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