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Posted by bramleyrhino on Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:22 pm
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... g-12862121

Huddersfield Giants Limited, Kirklees HD1, failed to pay ÂŁ7,801.70 to 24 workers, with average arrears of ÂŁ325.07 per worker


Also

Vikings Sports Foundation Ltd, Halton WA8, failed to pay ÂŁ1,026.47 to 1 worker, with average arrears of ÂŁ1,026.47 per worker


Further examples of the fine standards of club management across RL although in fairness, a few other sports clubs also named and shamed for underpaying staff - Sale Sharks, Bristol City, Durham CC, Dundee Utd, Northampton Town, Doncaster Rovers, Newcastle Falcons, Derbyshire CC and Sussex CC.
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Posted by Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza on Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:25 am
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Tbh they probably aren’t alone and it’s unfair to single out those two clubs. That said if they aren’t paying the minimum they should be ashamed of themselves.

Before they say it yes bradford’s unpaid credittors have a right to be vexed off too.
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Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:47 am
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So it’s not unfair to single out those clubs.

Personally I think it’s more unfair 25 workers haven’t been paid at least the minimum wage, than it is the clubs have been named.
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
So it’s not unfair to single out those clubs.

Personally I think it’s more unfair 25 workers haven’t been paid at least the minimum wage, than it is the clubs have been named.


It’s not unfair to name and shame them but i bet they aren’t alone
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Posted by bramleyrhino on Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:49 am
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Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:
It’s not unfair to name and shame them but i bet they aren’t alone

"Whataboutism" isn't really the point here. And "naming and shaming" employers is very rarely HMRC's first resort.
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Posted by snowie on Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:45 am
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well this country is now reaping what it sowed,
when you could turn to a friend a UNION that looked after you and had your interests at heart we now have a country that's back to the early 1900s when employers can hold you to ransom.

I fair bet there will be loads that will say unions only brought about disruptive service but one day it will effect you and you have no one to turn to.

rip off Britain is just getting greedier and while you have few pounds in your bank balance and it doesn't effect you, you will only turn a blind eye to the situation that's out there and still use all the companies that have been mentioned unless you have a conscious
Posted by Leigh_Manning on Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:56 am
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snowie wrote:
well this country is now reaping what it sowed,
when you could turn to a friend a UNION that looked after you and had your interests at heart we now have a country that's back to the early 1900s when employers can hold you to ransom.

I fair bet there will be loads that will say unions only brought about disruptive service but one day it will effect you and you have no one to turn to.

rip off Britain is just getting greedier and while you have few pounds in your bank balance and it doesn't effect you, you will only turn a blind eye to the situation that's out there and still use all the companies that have been mentioned unless you have a conscious

said a pensioner socialist, UNIONS do NOTHING other than collect a fee and stand in the way of progress. Ask yourself, why is UNISON based in BRAND NEW offices near Euston, for the "good of the workers", why did Scargill kill the mining industry, Bob Crow ruined the Railways... the list is endless (comrade)
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snowie wrote:
well this country is now reaping what it sowed,
when you could turn to a friend a UNION that looked after you and had your interests at heart we now have a country that's back to the early 1900s when employers can hold you to ransom.

I fair bet there will be loads that will say unions only brought about disruptive service but one day it will effect you and you have no one to turn to.

rip off Britain is just getting greedier and while you have few pounds in your bank balance and it doesn't effect you, you will only turn a blind eye to the situation that's out there and still use all the companies that have been mentioned unless you have a conscious


Sad, but true Snowie. Thatcher’s legacy is a nation of people who no longer care about anyone else but themselves.
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Leigh_Manning wrote:
said a pensioner socialist, UNIONS do NOTHING other than collect a fee and stand in the way of progress. Ask yourself, why is UNISON based in BRAND NEW offices near Euston, for the "good of the workers", why did Scargill kill the mining industry, Bob Crow ruined the Railways... the list is endless (comrade)

I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week
Posted by The Ghost of '99 on Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:05 pm
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I'd be wary of reading much into this without the detail. It's highly unlikely these clubs will have been paying below minimum wage in terms of the hourly pay. Most companies are on top of that.

It's more likely to do with rounding clocking in/out times and the joke of a change in interpretation of what constitutes a uniform (so what they said was ok last year, this year isn't but they never advised anyone of the change).

The minimum wage is probably too low in my view but the way HMRC have policed it this last 12 months has the clear hallmark of a money making exercise.
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