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Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season
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Posted by paulwalker71 on Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:24 pm
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Yes, I know we have a thread about next season, but I thought this deserved something on its own

I see that Toovey has admitted that he was only ever for this season and hasn't yet committed or decided anything for 2018. It might not be his decision - who knows?

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8690976

So do you think that, given that there appears to be a choice in the matter, he should be offered a deal to keep him here for next season?
Posted by Bullseye on Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:40 pm
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Yes.
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Posted by Bull Mania on Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:48 pm
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Yes. If we are to rebuild we need some sort of stability and consistency. Let him have a pre-season with them and lets go. I think the lack of pre-season has been the big reason we've picked up so many injuries.
Posted by Bullseye on Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:57 pm
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Agreed.
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Posted by paulwalker71 on Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:58 pm
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I'd be surprised if he's here next year. His interview in my OP doesn't exactly scream 'sign me up' to Chalmers does it?

Personally I'd be happier with a coach who knows this level. Just look at how well Dewsbury have done when they went a got Neil Kelly - a coach who really understands this level of rugby, and their performances from that point have been far better. Remember, they were on zero points until he arrived!

As a bit of a left field choice, I'd like to see us consider Lee Greenwood from Gloucester All Golds. He's already said he's leaving them at the end of the season as he want a club closer to home. Is home somewhere like Halifax? I know he played for Halifax? He seems like a hungry, ambitious, articulate coach who did a very good job at Gloucester with no money, and refused to go down the Dual-Reg route, preferring to develop local talent.

I know it may seem odd to ditch Geoff 'I used to coach Manly' Toovey in favour of a guy who has only ever coached a development team. But, be honest, what does Toovey know about League One?
Posted by ifallwerelikemumby on Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:08 pm
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I`m undecided, I know he has been left with a bunch of players nobody wanted, untried academy prospects and loanees, but the lack of planned moves in the opposition`s quarter in an effort to get over the line for me is really disappointing. Who do we blame the coaching staff or the players lack of ability? As Paul says maybe we need a coach who understands this level.
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Posted by tttiger on Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:12 pm
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dont think toovey will at bulls next year if the club is in indeed in league 1.
Agree the bulls could do worse than look at one of the coaches who have served their time in league 1 the outpost clubs have been beating some of the so called bigger teams in league 1 this year and greenwood at all golds is a decent shout .rumford at Oxford has done a sound job and has a record of developing players. Its well known these coaches have no money to spend on recruitment so would be interesting to see what they could do at a club with some resources Gary thornton is also vastly experienced at the level and I understand was only at the hawks for the rest of the current year
Posted by Bull Mania on Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:13 pm
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paulwalker71 wrote:
I'd be surprised if he's here next year. His interview in my OP doesn't exactly scream 'sign me up' to Chalmers does it?

Personally I'd be happier with a coach who knows this level. Just look at how well Dewsbury have done when they went a got Neil Kelly - a coach who really understands this level of rugby, and their performances from that point have been far better. Remember, they were on zero points until he arrived!

As a bit of a left field choice, I'd like to see us consider Lee Greenwood from Gloucester All Golds. He's already said he's leaving them at the end of the season as he want a club closer to home. Is home somewhere like Halifax? I know he played for Halifax? He seems like a hungry, ambitious, articulate coach who did a very good job at Gloucester with no money, and refused to go down the Dual-Reg route, preferring to develop local talent.

I know it may seem odd to ditch Geoff 'I used to coach Manly' Toovey in favour of a guy who has only ever coached a development team. But, be honest, what does Toovey know about League One?


If Toovey does goee Greenwood would be a perfect choice. Done wonders at Gloucester
Posted by Stul on Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:24 pm
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It's not as simple as yes or no. It's yes or someone else and we need to know who that would be.
Posted by Bulliac on Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:53 pm
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I've said before that I'm not exactly enamoured with Toovey.

Great player as he was, there is absolutely nothing in his record to suggest he is what we need at Odsal. He won one championship in Aussie, with the team of stars that he'd played with the previous year, then as the team got too old and fell apart he did nothing to bring in or improve players to take on the mantle. We need a Peter Fox or a John Keir type, not an Aussie superstar - someone who can get players to play above themselves.
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