Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:34 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

I think I remember that the 2011 kit that attracted such derision ended up being the best selling kit in recent memory.

A first trip to the new wembley massively helped that I believe.

Looked like someone had stuck the 85 kit on a boil wash.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:46 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Because he's the number 2 guy in the business, that's why. It's pretty much a given that as a member the board, he'll have had a big say and influence on it. The fact he's the 'face' of all the videos tells you that.

Also, just because a design expert has produced something, it doesn't mean you don't have the right to critique it. Like any expert, there's always a 2nd opinion.

The club have kicked a sh!te storm up that wasn't needed.

I can't work out if you're about 12, massively naive about business or just difficult.

well I do OK being naive about business considering I make a living out of marketing too (albeit not graphics). I wish I was about 12 I could be watching Radlinski win us the challenge cup single handedly

The company I work for is huge, we recently went through a massive rebrand after acquiring some smaller companies. The CEO had bugger all input into the branding, that isn't because she's incompetent, she recognised that it wasn't her skill set and that they were paying experts good money to do it. Obviously she was still required to lend her support to it once it was launched. I don't like the logo either and agree its a poor decision but it's a bit classless the other person getting personal about someone who has done so much for our club, particularly when he may have just been rowing the party line for all we know.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:49 pm  

Thus solidifying Radlinski as the worst CEO we've ever had.

His player acquisition has been middling to poor. This ego fueled nightmare takes it to a new level.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:50 pm  

How have the club involved supporters?

A number of supporters have confirmed they were involved on social media, was this part of the fan engagement panel that was set up fairly recently?

I find it quite strange that Kris Radlinski himself has admitted that he expects some people to be unhappy but that to me indicates that they know the design isn’t quite right.

I’m not against change but for something so important to supporters I would like to of seen all supporters be given an opportunity to have their say.

The fan mock ups that are starting to appear on social media are a huge improvement on the clubs effort.

Re: Video on Twitter : Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:57 pm  

jonh wrote:

I don’t particularly like the re brand and I understand most on here won’t either.

The simple fact is though it isn’t aimed at us. We are the old farts to a certain extent the captive audience.

Clearly the club knew it wasn’t going to go down well with the traditional fans however they are aiming at a new younger market and securing the next generation of fans.

The old crest was/is dated in reality and if this rebrand helps boost attendances and helps support the drive for younger fans then I’m all for it.

If you want to attract a new, younger audience then improve the product on the pitch.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:00 pm  

Is not part of this that there still needs to be a reckoning about the Warriors name: fans engagement (or not) with it and whether arguably the most famous club in British Rugby League (and certainly the first thing, even now, many people think of when the hear the town name) needs this pointless appendage?

Wigan are Wigan. The name tells you everything you need to know. Shoehorning an unloved name in place of a much-loved logo in such an amateurish way reflects really badly on the people running the club - they would appear to be utterly out of touch.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:04 pm  

So we’re cherry and black now as well? Utter farce.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:05 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

So we’re cherry and black now as well? Utter farce.

Maybe the colours cherry and white are outdated or it costs too much to produce a cherry and white hooped kit? I imagine a load of businesses have said they won't work with us because we don't have any black in our kit.

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:14 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Is not part of this that there still needs to be a reckoning about the Warriors name: fans engagement (or not) with it and whether arguably the most famous club in British Rugby League (and certainly the first thing, even now, many people think of when the hear the town name) needs this pointless appendage?

Wigan are Wigan. The name tells you everything you need to know. Shoehorning an unloved name in place of a much-loved logo in such an amateurish way reflects really badly on the people running the club - they would appear to be utterly out of touch.

I don’t think I’ve ever described us as the “Warriors “ and I never will
Worse than Halifax “Blue Sox”

If the new badge was aimed at youngsters merchandise I’m fine with it but first team jersey it’s an abomination

Re: Video on Twitter - New Club Badge : Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:15 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

:lol: well I do OK being naive about business considering I make a living out of marketing too (albeit not graphics). I wish I was about 12 I could be watching Radlinski win us the challenge cup single handedly

The company I work for is huge, we recently went through a massive rebrand after acquiring some smaller companies. The CEO had bugger all input into the branding, that isn't because she's incompetent, she recognised that it wasn't her skill set and that they were paying experts good money to do it. Obviously she was still required to lend her support to it once it was launched. I don't like the logo either and agree its a poor decision but it's a bit classless the other person getting personal about someone who has done so much for our club, particularly when he may have just been rowing the party line for all we know.

Sorry for the petulant insult - I've taken it out of my OP. I have to admit this topics got me more rattled than I expected it would, or even should. I guess it goes to show how attached (even if it's subconsciously) to the badge we can become.

Completely agree on your statements regarding Radders and the other poster being out of line. Totally uncalled for.

This whole situation could have been avoided with a brand refresh, rather than the full reset that we've got. The club would have had a much easier sell & achieved their goals, had they done a few simple tweaks & touches. I just feel we've gone too far and too modern and FWIW I don't think the agency have really factored in the long term shelf life of the new badge either. Traditional always stands the test of time, whilst modern dates quickly.