The rest of the season : Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:36 pm  

I have seen enough to conclude that Wigan are not good enough to win anything this season. So the rest of the season should be used to develop the younger players who showed tremendous promise in the midweek Derby against Saints. The last two woeful semi-final performances have shown that Lam is completely incapable of delivering when it matters. I can accept defeat, as I have had plenty disappointments in the last 60 years, but to be be rolled over by two lesser teams when it matters is hard to take.

Re: The rest of the season : Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:15 pm  

Lammy has rightly taken some stick on here and he has to go for me as do the rest. We find a coach we want and we back him. If he wants to go to the moon for pre-season, we go.

I don't think Lam should shoulder the whole blame though. The players have spoken about how they had a meeting after HKR and made some changes. Well they didn't even last a month. Now it's time for the leadership group to stand up and be counted.

We have 7 or 8 games left and come the final game we need to be ready to go out and win some big games. It's happened plenty of times in the past (Leeds from 5th twice) where a side seems to flick a switch and come home strong, well that today should be our switch.

Re: The rest of the season : Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:47 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Lammy has rightly taken some stick on here and he has to go for me as do the rest. We find a coach we want and we back him. If he wants to go to the moon for pre-season, we go.

I don't think Lam should shoulder the whole blame though. The players have spoken about how they had a meeting after HKR and made some changes. Well they didn't even last a month. Now it's time for the leadership group to stand up and be counted.

We have 7 or 8 games left and come the final game we need to be ready to go out and win some big games. It's happened plenty of times in the past (Leeds from 5th twice) where a side seems to flick a switch and come home strong, well that today should be our switch.

Dream on. However back in reality ...

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:33 am  

We don’t have that switch under Lam sadly. I thought we’d flicked it on after the HKR game but it was just another false dawn under Lam. We look poorly coached and devoid of ideas. On the odd occasion like Huddersfield away or Hull in the cup we manage to put some minutes together and get a good result but week in week out we look lost in the main. We’re in a bit of a transitional phase at the moment with the old guard past their best and a load of young lads breaking through and it’s so important we get the right man in to take charge of that. I don’t know who that is but I certainly know who it isn’t.

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:54 am  

nohalfbacks wrote:

Dream on. However back in reality ...

Back in reality what ? I'll have a few pints of what you have been supping mate.

That display was NOT Wigan standard. Nor was the decision on last Tuesday evening's match to ask our younger players to play Saints 'up the middle' . Bonkers, bonkers decisions !

Agar 'out planned' Lam . FFS.

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:43 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

We don’t have that switch under Lam sadly.

And that is why the leadership team needs to stand up

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:08 am  

fleabag wrote:

Back in reality what ? I'll have a few pints of what you have been supping mate.

That display was NOT Wigan standard. Nor was the decision on last Tuesday evening's match to ask our younger players to play Saints 'up the middle' . Bonkers, bonkers decisions !

Agar 'out planned' Lam . FFS.

I agree. I think you misread my post!

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:29 am  

We are still in with a shot of winning the GF, no way should we and will we be giving up on this season. Yesterday was awful but conditions really played into Leeds hands and once they got on a roll we couldn’t stop them, it’s frustrating given the magnitude of the game but sometimes these things happen. Saints aside I see no team that I wouldn’t give us a good chance of beating it we turn up and I don’t think Saints are unbeatable either.

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:48 am  

CobraCraig wrote:

We are still in with a shot of winning the GF, no way should we and will we be giving up on this season. Yesterday was awful but conditions really played into Leeds hands and once they got on a roll we couldn’t stop them, it’s frustrating given the magnitude of the game but sometimes these things happen. Saints aside I see no team that I wouldn’t give us a good chance of beating it we turn up and I don’t think Saints are unbeatable either.

But that's the conditions this season's going to finish in!!!!

No offense mate but you seriously need to take off those cherry and white specs

Re: The rest of the season : Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:20 am  

Cbr1000rr wrote:

But that's the conditions this season's going to finish in!!!!

No offense mate but you seriously need to take off those cherry and white specs

It is not being a happy clappy to hope that we can out together a run of results to rescue the season, it is called being a fan. Having said that despite the quality in the team we just do not look like contenders because we are so inconsistent. Bizarrely having a great crop of youngsters is problematic. They become a long term project that negates our ability to bring in seasoned players over the short term whilst necessitating keeping hold of mentors who should have been out out to grass. Sadly the usual outcome will be that we eventually let young players go to bring in stop gap players and they will go on to be successful elsewhere.
I am not advocating keeping hold of all of our youngsters. I think that seeing Sammy Kibula for Warrington will have ended that argument but I am horrified by how often we let players go but do not replace them with better players. Even now we are signing Singleton who is a solid player but is also more of what we already have got without being able to move anyone on.
I know that the Burgess move has not worked out but he is a marquee signing. For his nominal cost on the salary cap we could have got a decent player. Sadly he will be with us until he is fit or until his contract finishes. Even so other teams manage to find quality players and fit them in under the cap but it is usually done at the expense of sentimentality allowing for the dead wood to be trimmed.