Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:58 am  

DrFeelgood wrote:

I think if you take into account no other factors then perhaps you have a point. But George has clear on-field disciplinary issues and bans already this season - the panel surely are more likely to throw the book at you if they keep seeing your face sat in front of them.

Leon Pryce only got 3 games for it and he had plenty of previous including launching a ball at a touch judge. Challenge Cup Final to play in.

Only last week Kenny Edwards walked away from a charge of inciting the crowd (much much worse in my book) despite it being clear for all to see on TV. High profile incident busily being swept under the carpet as one of the clubs involved have a Challenge Cup final to play in.

If only Flanagan could have an ex. referee and Sky sports employee as his defence counsel.

I don't think he should play again this season after that but to have this running into next year when he's (to the best of my knowledge) not signed on with anyone yet is extremely harsh. Especially as he's a part timer with kids.

The whole thing stinks of corruption.

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:17 pm  

As a part-timer with kids, he is the one responsible for doing what he did, for absolutely no reason, describing it as a "brain explosion", but he had only been on for two minutes.

His record is appalling and he is a liability.

The penalty for the charge as drawn, and graded, which grading HE ACCEPTED start at 8 games and so he is in fact a lucky lad as he could well have got longer. Nobody can whinge about him getting the deserved minimum.

If the penalty starts at 8 games, and you get only 8 games, that is what they call "leniency".

RFL disciplinary wrote:

Player in attendance alongside Assistant Coach Gareth Carvell and pleads guilty to the charge and accepts the grading at Grade F. Players representative reiterates that there is no excuse for this type of conduct on the field. The player has been spoken to by the Head Coach regarding his on-field conduct. The player himself has accepted that his conduct on the field during this current season has not been acceptable. He has missed several matches due to his conduct. This is not the type of conduct the player relates to and as a player of considerable experience he appreciates he is perhaps coming towards the end of his player career. The player relates that he had only been on the field for three minutes when this “brain explosion” occurred. Player has demonstrated considerable remorse for his conduct and accepts his guilt.
Decision:

Guilty and accepts the grading at Grade F
Summary of CM's submissions on the appropriate sanction

• Player charged under RFL Rule 15.1(i) Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game – testicles - attacking • Incident occurred in the 31st minute of the match and placed on report • Mr Flanagan makes approach between the legs of opponent after the tackle is complete • Immediate physical reaction from Mr Miloudi and from Mr Wilkin verbally to the referee • Clear medical reports submitted due to nature of the injury, supported by the player’s submissions. • Referee report, players statement and medical report all clearly note a squeeze to the testicles • Footage clearly shows Mr Flanagan’s hand placed in the area in which has been injured following contact • Graded F due to; - Charge starts at Grade F - Unnecessary and not part of the game - Clear intent due to the nature of the contact – could not be accidental - No place in the game for such acts - Brings the game into disrepute
Summary of Player's submissions on the appropriate sanction

Player accepts his guilt and has been spoken to by the Head Coach about his on-field conduct. Player accepts his recent conduct on the field has not been acceptable.
Aggravating Factors

26.1.12 – Dangerous Contact (Grade B, 1 match) 16.5.13 – Punching (Grade B, 1 match) 26.5.16 – Repeated Punching (Grade C, 2 matches) 17.1.19 – Dangerous Contact (Grade B, 1 match) 27.6.19 – Trip – intentional (Grade C, 2 matches)
Reasons for Decision

The Tribunal have carefully viewed the footage on several occasions and listened to the submissions made by the player and his representative. This was a clear and deliberate attack on an opponent’s testicles after a tackle had been made. This was obviously a painful incident but it is noted the opponent did play on. In deciding the appropriate sanction this Tribunal have taken into account the players previous disciplinary record. The Tribunal are impressed that the player has acknowledged his conduct over the current season has not been acceptable They are satisfied that the player has shown genuine remorse for his actions and they have also been impressed by the stance taken by the club relating to the player on his behalf. This Tribunal feel that an 8 match suspension and a £250 fine are appropriate.

I really don't see how anyone can make an issue of this.

[Bullseye]

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:21 pm  

Has he played his last game for us?

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:24 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Has he played his last game for us?

If so, he should at least qualify for a couple of testemonials

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:33 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Has he played his last game for us?

I'd say so. He is PT and I'd imagine fairly cheap but we've Doyle coming through, Hallas has definitely improved in that position too. Also wouldn't surprise me to eventually see Lilley move there and Milnes cement his place as our 6.

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:53 pm  

I know what Kear means though, you are always better off with players with a bit of dog, who can wind p the opposition players and fans and so disrupt their play. It's just that I draw the line at what he did, absolutely no need at all and what's worse, brainless, as it was guaranteed not to end well, with everything on TV nowadays.

Maybe Bradley Gallagher would be the next candidate? He's been charged three times this year same as George, so must have plenty of attitude, but not for anything spherical

[Bullseye]

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:15 pm  

I agree on the fact that he has a bit of mongrel but he’s also had too many brain explosions this year. I wonder if he’s actually able to reign it in. With Doyle looking to come through I’d be surprised if we kept Flanagan.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

If so, he should at least qualify for a couple of testemonials

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:27 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

As a part-timer with kids, he is the one responsible for doing what he did, for absolutely no reason, describing it as a "brain explosion", but he had only been on for two minutes.

His record is appalling and he is a liability.

The penalty for the charge as drawn, and graded, which grading HE ACCEPTED start at 8 games and so he is in fact a lucky lad as he could well have got longer. Nobody can whinge about him getting the deserved minimum.

If the penalty starts at 8 games, and you get only 8 games, that is what they call "leniency".

I really don't see how anyone can make an issue of this.

The law's an ass

Re: Disciplinary : Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:54 pm  

We need a hooker for the reserves next year. Flanagan fits the bill, he's p/t and he can be effectively 4th choice for the first team.

Re: Disciplinary : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:48 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I know what Kear means though, you are always better off with players with a bit of dog, who can wind p the opposition players and fans and so disrupt their play. It's just that I draw the line at what he did, absolutely no need at all and what's worse, brainless, as it was guaranteed not to end well, with everything on TV nowadays.

Maybe Bradley Gallagher would be the next candidate? He's been charged three times this year same as George, so must have plenty of attitude, but not for anything spherical

Seen Gallagher a few times at Dudley Hill, think the kid could have a massive future. Good grounding and his parents are great people.

I love players with a bit of niggle