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Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:17 pm
Posted by little wayne69 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:17 pm
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Fully wrote:
Comparisons such as Walmsley last season, who played games.

Who is to say they haven’t? Because it hasn’t been publicised doesn’t mean to say it hasn’t been used.

The Hull Daily Mail seems to have received news/evidence it has been used in previous seasons. We won’t be the first and we won’t be the last.

Clubs at the bottom won’t use it because a few of them don’t actually spend the full salary cap to warrant using it (eg Salford, Wakefield).

Would you care to expand on your last paragraph concerning clubs at the bottom.
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:39 pm
Posted by ThePrinter on Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:39 pm
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Fully wrote:
Clubs at the bottom won’t use it because a few of them don’t actually spend the full salary cap to warrant using it (eg Salford, Wakefield).


And if Cas weren’t spending the full cap they wouldn’t get dispensation, most clubs leave a gap in their caps to deal with such a scenario. So what’s happening is Cas are being let off with poor cap management, that’s why it’s a poor rule. That’s why is not comparable to other dispensations that Cas fans want to try throw around to make this sound fine.
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Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:36 pm
Posted by ALAW on Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:36 pm
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Surprised there isn't something in the salary cap rules stating if a player is injured upto 'x' date they don't count on salary cap. Would take all uncertainty out of it.
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:05 pm
Posted by steadygetyerboots-on on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:05 pm
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ThePrinter wrote:
And if Cas weren’t spending the full cap they wouldn’t get dispensation, most clubs leave a gap in their caps to deal with such a scenario. So what’s happening is Cas are being let off with poor cap management, that’s why it’s a poor rule. That’s why is not comparable to other dispensations that Cas fans want to try throw around to make this sound fine.



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And if Cas weren’t spending the full cap they wouldn’t get dispensation, most clubs leave a gap in their caps to deal with such a scenario. So what’s happening is Cas are being let off with poor cap management, that’s why it’s a poor rule. That’s why is not comparable to other dispensations that Cas fans want to try throw around to make this sound fine.


Can you provide physical evidence of Cas’ salary cap management please rather than your assumptions? I only ask as you seemed pretty keen on needing evidence when the HDM published their article.
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Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:21 pm
Posted by ThePrinter on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:21 pm
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Can you provide physical evidence of Cas’ salary cap management please rather than your assumptions? I only ask as you seemed pretty keen on needing evidence when the HDM published their article.


Maybe Cas aren’t spending the full cap and they do have plenty of room to sign a replacement without dispensation.....but that would only make the ruling even more stupid.

If Cas were already, lets say, ÂŁ150/200k under the cap but still asking for salary cap relief when they have more than enough to sign a replacement then only highlights how ridiculous the rule is.
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Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:27 pm
Posted by homme vaste on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:27 pm
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ALAW wrote:
Surprised there isn't something in the salary cap rules stating if a player is injured upto 'x' date they don't count on salary cap. Would take all uncertainty out of it.


It wouldn't know would it? I imagine clubs would exploit the ruling to there advantage.
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:38 pm
Posted by jakeyg95 on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:38 pm
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Don't see how anyone can have a problem with them being given an exemption if he's literally not going to play for the entire season. Other ways round it anyway even if the RFL didn't let them. Just loan him to a team with enough cap space (presumably only us, Salford and London) in exchange for a favour at some point, similar to the deal we did with Hull for Dean Hadley the other year.
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:59 pm
Posted by homme vaste on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:59 pm
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Don't see how anyone can have a problem with them being given an exemption if he's literally not going to play for the entire season. Other ways round it anyway even if the RFL didn't let them. Just loan him to a team with enough cap space (presumably only us, Salford and London) in exchange for a favour at some point, similar to the deal we did with Hull for Dean Hadley the other year.


How is that even remotely similar to the Dean Hadley deal? Dean played more or less the full season for us and was IMO one of our top performers, yes Hull needed to offload for temporary relief yet Dean was fully fit and highly regarded throughout the game, if we hadn`t of taken him there would have been at least 5 or 6 other SL clubs that would have.

Simon Grix deal was very similar though.
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:25 pm
Posted by MorePlaymakersNeeded on Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:25 pm
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ThePrinter wrote:
Do you think he’ll be sat at home all year though? You’ll still have a MOS winner attending training and matches giving advice and tips to your other HB’s especially young Trueman. In that way he can still have a significant impact on your season.

So would any other member of the coaching staff. Do they count on the cap?
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:58 pm
Posted by Fully on Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:58 pm
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little wayne69 wrote:
Would you care to expand on your last paragraph concerning clubs at the bottom.


Easy. There’s no use giving a dispensation to a club to spend more money when they can’t afford the existing cap, and can fit a player under it if they wanted to replace a player out injured long-term.
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