FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Anti - Trin Bias
RankPostsTeam
International Star374No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 12 201410 years304th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
1st Nov 23 14:117th Jun 23 21:56LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:19 pm  
Bennet clearly prefers his Wingers to be big. Most tries at international level are not length of the field efforts and so the international winger tends to be built big who can make hard years early in the set and have plenty weight to them when contesting balls/barging over from short distance.

Until that trend stops (and once Hall/McGilvary retire) I can't see that lads like Johnstone being picked, much as I think on the whole they deserve to.
snowie 
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member
JoinedServiceReputation
22 years315th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
1st Jan 70 00:0020th Jun 22 17:41LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:32 pm  
PopTart wrote:
Lol. That is funny. I actually weed a little bit laughing at that one.
Thanks for that ScouseViking :)
:shock:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman35972
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200420 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 16:1212th May 24 16:11LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:54 pm  
ScouseViking wrote:
Hall and McGillvary are the only 2 players (Excluding SB) to have shown any sort of impact at all at the top level for England and you want to replace them with a player that could not get in a Wakefield team a few weeks back? Makinson I can take as he has consistently been one of the best wingers in the league over the last 3 years so he deserves a shot, In all honesty im not too sure I would take Johnstone over Ah Van.


I’m sure you wouldn’t - so what.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20297
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 14:1212th May 24 19:11LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:42 pm  
snowie wrote:
:shock:


Too much? Sorry....
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star5004
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 07 201410 years99th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 19:0312th May 24 18:39LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:21 pm  
The simple fact is that Toms not playing well enough to get ahead of the two incumbent international wingers! He’s hasnt regained his full speed either off the mark or in full flight and he hasn’t regained the same level of footwork going into the line which often saw him slip away from the defender. That’s not to say he never will but he certainly isn’t at the same level he was at before his knee injury.

Makinson is the form winger of the season for me, not just in terms of try’s but because of his all around game. He returns the ball well either into contact or when given space and crucially he defends far better than Tom. His positioning in the defensive line looks more assured and composed while he also looks more confident defending the high cross field kicks. While I think Tom is often let down by his inside defenders I can’t blame all of the defensive errors on them.

Hall has a track record of high quality performances at international level and even turns up for England when his club form has been less than average.

McGillivery was the star player of the World Cup last year and after missing half of the SuperLeague season through injury picked up playing for England he said now playing up to his best form.

Toms going to have to wait for Hall or McGillivery to play themselves out of the England shirt or be injured. In addition there’s a number of good young wingers who will push him to be next in line and there’s also the likes of Makinson, Charley, Burgess, Lynham who are all going to want a shot.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20297
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 14:1212th May 24 19:11LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:21 pm  
The Avenger wrote:
The simple fact is that Toms not playing well enough to get ahead of the two incumbent international wingers! He’s hasnt regained his full speed either off the mark or in full flight and he hasn’t regained the same level of footwork going into the line which often saw him slip away from the defender. That’s not to say he never will but he certainly isn’t at the same level he was at before his knee injury.

Makinson is the form winger of the season for me, not just in terms of try’s but because of his all around game. He returns the ball well either into contact or when given space and crucially he defends far better than Tom. His positioning in the defensive line looks more assured and composed while he also looks more confident defending the high cross field kicks. While I think Tom is often let down by his inside defenders I can’t blame all of the defensive errors on them.

Hall has a track record of high quality performances at international level and even turns up for England when his club form has been less than average.

McGillivery was the star player of the World Cup last year and after missing half of the SuperLeague season through injury picked up playing for England he said now playing up to his best form.

Toms going to have to wait for Hall or McGillivery to play themselves out of the England shirt or be injured. In addition there’s a number of good young wingers who will push him to be next in line and there’s also the likes of Makinson, Charley, Burgess, Lynham who are all going to want a shot.


Manfredi will be adding himself to that list if he has recovered from his injury.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman35972
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200420 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 16:1212th May 24 16:11LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:30 pm  
The Avenger wrote:
The simple fact is that Toms not playing well enough to get ahead of the two incumbent international wingers! He’s hasnt regained his full speed either off the mark or in full flight and he hasn’t regained the same level of footwork going into the line which often saw him slip away from the defender. That’s not to say he never will but he certainly isn’t at the same level he was at before his knee injury.

Makinson is the form winger of the season for me, not just in terms of try’s but because of his all around game. He returns the ball well either into contact or when given space and crucially he defends far better than Tom. His positioning in the defensive line looks more assured and composed while he also looks more confident defending the high cross field kicks. While I think Tom is often let down by his inside defenders I can’t blame all of the defensive errors on them.

Hall has a track record of high quality performances at international level and even turns up for England when his club form has been less than average.

McGillivery was the star player of the World Cup last year and after missing half of the SuperLeague season through injury picked up playing for England he said now playing up to his best form.

Toms going to have to wait for Hall or McGillivery to play themselves out of the England shirt or be injured. In addition there’s a number of good young wingers who will push him to be next in line and there’s also the likes of Makinson, Charley, Burgess, Lynham who are all going to want a shot.


Don’t agree RE TJ. I see no difference at all to the pre-injury player tbh. The differences are If there are actually any is that one he’s a marked man now and two due to his injury he’s now a year behind where we expected him to be.

That said the lad is in double figures! Despite missing games so if that’s a dip in form then I suspect that there are a lot of SL wingers who wish they had Johnstone’s lack of form - give the lad a break I say.
RankPostsTeam
International Star2482
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 31 201410 years264th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 15:4818th Apr 24 20:29LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:56 pm  
wrencat1873 wrote:
Would you rate Eden above Englands current wingers (or Johnstone) ??
He benefitted from Castlefords attacking style, which often overloads the left side.
Remember Solomona ??

Altough Eden scored a lot of tries and some cracking efforts among them, I wouldnt put him in the top 5.


Eden has hardly played this year Wren so I'll just concentrate on last year. Its hard to argue regarding Jerry and Hall the way they performed in the world cup but through the season Eden was at least on a par with them but never got a look in.
I agree he doesn't bring it out of defence as well as the others and Makinsons incredible improvement this season (what weights is he doing?) has put him above Eden along with Charnley.
So when all fit Eden 5th Ah Van 6th, And TJ 7th. :wink:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman35972
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200420 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 16:1212th May 24 16:11LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:24 am  
newgroundb4wakey wrote:
Eden has hardly played this year Wren so I'll just concentrate on last year. Its hard to argue regarding Jerry and Hall the way they performed in the world cup but through the season Eden was at least on a par with them but never got a look in.
I agree he doesn't bring it out of defence as well as the others and Makinsons incredible improvement this season (what weights is he doing?) has put him above Eden along with Charnley.
So when all fit Eden 5th Ah Van 6th, And TJ 7th. :wink:


Why Charnley, workmanlike at best. Great signing for Warrington but not Internstional standard, in fact he’s just an improved version of Eden.

It’s Hall and mcgilvereys to lose and both still have far to much form to lose.

If this were a full test series I’d like to have thought TJ might tag along for the experience but that’s about all for now.

I’m not really sure what this games meant to be so I’m not to bothered tbh.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20 20159 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Jun 19 11:2123rd Jun 19 14:14LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Anti - Trin Bias : Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:49 am  
IMO Hall and McGillvray have 'peaked' but marginally still first choice wingers. Makinson has had a good season (in a very good team!)
According to some comments on here TJ has not come up to scratch this season -hence not being on the plane.
Well I can put up with such a winger, who has scored some acrobatic tries Mc Gillvray couldn't attempt and is now scoring pretty regularly again!
Tom's time will come, but until it does, I still very much enjoy watching him in a Trinity shirt!
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: wakeytrin, Willzay and 149 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Bradford next
Wollo-Wollo-
137
Recent
Ticket for the final
KevW60349
14
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36355
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58294
Recent
Hull
Smithers99
16
Recent
Tonights game v HKR
WireWireWire
63
Recent
London Away
Jake the Peg
258
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
1214
Recent
TV games not Wire
scarrie
3026
Recent
BBC
wakeytrin
8
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
YosemiteSam
83
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36355
1m
Shopping list for 2025
tommyfromhul
1813
1m
Fitzgibbon
fez1
60
2m
Rumours thread
FIL
1266
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
1695
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
Alffi_7
2444
3m
Hudds a
WWste
58
3m
Asiata is going to Hull
Jack Gaskell
46
3m
Squad 2024
faxcar
419
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Support today
PopTart
9
TODAY
BBC
wakeytrin
8
TODAY
Ticket for the final
KevW60349
14
TODAY
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Semi Final
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
"I didnt see that coming"
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Sensational Second Forty Crushes Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leopards Change Their Spots
Leyther in n
5
TODAY
Luke Yates
WYSIWYG2
3
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hull KR As They Go Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull fc
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Charnley signs
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Tonights game v HKR
WireWireWire
63
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
209
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
288
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
473
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
649
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
776
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
1546
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
1534
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
1207
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
1288
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
3024
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
2891
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
3020
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
3447
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
3701
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
3304
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.59M 1,939 80,04814,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Fri 17th May
National Rugby League 2024-R11
09:00
Canberra
v
Canterbury
11:05
Manly
v
Brisbane
 Sat 18th May
National Rugby League 2024-R11
06:00
Gold Coast
v
Newcastle
08:30
Cronulla
v
Sydney
10:45
Souths
v
NQL Cowboys
Womens Challenge Cup 2024-R5
11:15
St.HelensW
v
York V
Challenge Cup 2024-R8
13:15
Hull KR
v
Wigan
Championship 2024-R8
15:00
Toulouse
v
Barrow
 Sun 19th May
National Rugby League 2024-R11
04:50
NZ Warriors
v
Penrith
07:05
Melbourne
v
Parramatta
09:25
Wests
v
Dolphins
Womens Challenge Cup 2024-R5
12:30
WiganW
v
LeedsW
Championship 2024-R8
15:00
Bradford
v
Sheffield
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Featherstone
15:00
Doncaster
v
Batley
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 18th May
CC2024
13:15
Hull KR-Wigan
WOMCC2024
11:15
St.HelensW-York V
Sun 19th May
CC2024
15:15
Huddersfield-Warrington
WOMCC2024
12:30
WiganW-LeedsW
Fri 24th May
WSL2024
17:00
St.HelensW-LeedsW
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 12th May
SL 11 LondonB34-18Hull FC
WSL2024 3 Wire W10-6BarrowW
WSL2024 3 York V10-16LeedsW
L1 8 Midlands22-24Cornwall
1895 5 Bradford14-40Wakefield
1895 5 York18-28Sheffield
NRL 10 Sydney38-18NZ Warriors
NRL 10 Gold Coast20-18NQL Cowboys
Sat 11th May
SL 11 Huddersfield6-48Wigan
SL 11 Catalans26-0Leeds
WSL2024 3 Hudds W0-102WiganW
WSL2024 3 FeatherstoneW4-58St.HelensW
NRL 10 Wests14-20Newcastle
NRL 10 St.George28-14Souths
NRL 10 Melbourne18-25Cronulla
Fri 10th May
SL 11 Castleford4-60St.Helens
SL 11 Leigh40-12Salford
NRL 10 Parramatta14-30Brisbane
NRL 10 Penrith16-10Canterbury
Thu 9th May
SL 11 Warrington20-8Hull KR
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 10 312 132 180 16
St.Helens 11 289 114 175 16
Warrington 11 286 143 143 16
Catalans 11 244 152 92 16
Hull KR 11 262 169 93 14
Salford 11 210 226 -16 14
 
Leeds 11 204 198 6 12
Huddersfield 11 240 229 11 10
Leigh 10 228 184 44 7
Castleford 11 184 352 -168 5
Hull FC 11 122 386 -264 2
LondonB 11 116 412 -296 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 7 252 72 180 14
Sheffield 7 224 98 126 12
Widnes 7 190 97 93 12
Featherstone 7 192 132 60 10
Bradford 7 145 129 16 8
Toulouse 7 158 130 28 6
 
Doncaster 7 156 168 -12 6
Swinton 7 140 154 -14 6
Whitehaven 7 133 189 -56 6
Barrow 7 102 207 -105 6
Batley 7 109 154 -45 4
Halifax 7 94 199 -105 4
York 7 113 189 -76 2
Dewsbury 7 115 205 -90 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Bradford next
Wollo-Wollo-
137
Recent
Ticket for the final
KevW60349
14
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36355
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58294
Recent
Hull
Smithers99
16
Recent
Tonights game v HKR
WireWireWire
63
Recent
London Away
Jake the Peg
258
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
1214
Recent
TV games not Wire
scarrie
3026
Recent
BBC
wakeytrin
8
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
YosemiteSam
83
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36355
1m
Shopping list for 2025
tommyfromhul
1813
1m
Fitzgibbon
fez1
60
2m
Rumours thread
FIL
1266
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
1695
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
Alffi_7
2444
3m
Hudds a
WWste
58
3m
Asiata is going to Hull
Jack Gaskell
46
3m
Squad 2024
faxcar
419
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Support today
PopTart
9
TODAY
BBC
wakeytrin
8
TODAY
Ticket for the final
KevW60349
14
TODAY
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Semi Final
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
"I didnt see that coming"
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Sensational Second Forty Crushes Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leopards Change Their Spots
Leyther in n
5
TODAY
Luke Yates
WYSIWYG2
3
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hull KR As They Go Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull fc
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Charnley signs
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Tonights game v HKR
WireWireWire
63
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
209
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
288
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
473
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
649
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
776
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
1546
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
1534
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
1207
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
1288
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
3024
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
2891
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
3020
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
3447
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
3701
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
3304


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!