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Re: Donald Trump
Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:34 pm
Posted by Sal Paradise on Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:34 pm
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There are two issues here.
Firstly, a shortage of hospital beds, resulting in a 4 year old boy, not having a bed and being pictured on the floor in a hospital corridor and this on it's own isn't great.
However, we then have Tory sympathisers (including yourself) trying desperately to portray this as not having happened and being a "publicity stunt", fake information form "a friend of a nurse" etc, utterly fabricated in order to DELIBERATELY pour doubt on the whole issue and the FAKS story of someone who "knows the staff" saying that it never happened.

I can live with the insufficient funding and the fact that there isn't a bed for everyone.
What I cant abide, is the ABSOLUTE LIES that have been banded about in order to cover up the mess, which is largely due to insufficient funding and as I stated, YOU were the only person on here to regurgitate the mis information, that was put out to try and take the heat off the Tory lies.

You are damn right that I'm angry and I make no apology for that - politics is twisted enough without the new gutter tactics of the current ruling party and the sooner that we have just a hint of honesty from those who should be setting an example to the masses, I'm sure that my level of anger will reduce.

As for you, if you cannot or will not see the wrongdoing with this particular issue than I fear that you are actually beyond help but you could try this number 0207 2703000 - ask for Boris or Cummings, I'm sure that you'll get a sympathetic ear.


Calm down - let's put things into context.

The story will be a combination of a number of factors:
1. Extreme demand on the service - the busiest day since 2016
2. Leeds is in the grip of a Norovirus outbreak amongst young people
3. Long-term under-funding of the NHS - in part due to the dire financial position the Tories inherited from Labour, most agree Labour would have embarked on a form of austerity. Add to that the interest the NHS is paying on PFI projects supported by the Labour party under Blair/Brown.
4. Increased demand on the NHS due to people living longer, new clinical procedures, new drugs, social care issues etc.
5. If the parent hadn't decided to put the child on the floor this would not have been an issue.
6. If the parent hadn't took a picture to sell to the YP for one this wouldn't have been an issue
7. The child was assessed and deemed not a priority by highly qualified clinical professionals - he went home that day. Perhaps he shouldn't have been there in the first place?
8. Lying - agreed - the stunt on some activist punching an aide was stupid

I am not defending anyone - I am merely trying to put things into context unlike you who is so blinded and enraged you have lost the ability of logic thought. I have had 3 kids who all had the normal infections kids get including tonsillitis not once did I think of taking them to A&E.

Sometimes we all have to take the responsibility and consequences of the decisions we take - we simply cannot defend everything everybody ever does - unless their a Socialist and then its all OK!!
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Re: Donald Trump
Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:41 pm
Posted by IR80 on Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:41 pm
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Sal Paradise wrote:
Calm down - let's put things into context.

The story will be a combination of a number of factors:
1. Extreme demand on the service - the busiest day since 2016
2. Leeds is in the grip of a Norovirus outbreak amongst young people
3. Long-term under-funding of the NHS - in part due to the dire financial position the Tories inherited from Labour, most agree Labour would have embarked on a form of austerity. Add to that the interest the NHS is paying on PFI projects supported by the Labour party under Blair/Brown.
4. Increased demand on the NHS due to people living longer, new clinical procedures, new drugs, social care issues etc.
5. If the parent hadn't decided to put the child on the floor this would not have been an issue.
6. If the parent hadn't took a picture to sell to the YP for one this wouldn't have been an issue
7. The child was assessed and deemed not a priority by highly qualified clinical professionals - he went home that day. Perhaps he shouldn't have been there in the first place?
8. Lying - agreed - the stunt on some activist punching an aide was stupid

I am not defending anyone - I am merely trying to put things into context unlike you who is so blinded and enraged you have lost the ability of logic thought. I have had 3 kids who all had the normal infections kids get including tonsillitis not once did I think of taking them to A&E.

Sometimes we all have to take the responsibility and consequences of the decisions we take - we simply cannot defend everything everybody ever does - unless their a Socialist and then its all OK!!

Don't talk sense, it doesn't go down well with the lefties.
Re: Donald Trump
Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:19 am
Posted by AXE2GRIND on Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:19 am
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Sal Paradise wrote:
5. If the parent hadn't decided to put the child on the floor this would not have been an issue.


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