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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:26 pm  
Wimbledon or MK Dons it is then?
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:54 pm  
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Again, although it isn't very nice, why is it a problem either way?
If we get match day control and match day income why do we care who does what on the other days?



Because Matchday income alone is not enough to run and sustain a viable business.
The club need to be able to run their business from the stadium 52 weeks a year, not just on 15 or so matchdays. If the club don't have the ability to generate income from conferences, parties, weddings etc then they cannot grow the business.

Do you think Cas would be accepting moving into a new stadium (if/when it ever gets built) with no facility to generate income from it on anything other than on matchdays??? They know that their deal provides them with a long term arrangement to grow their business. That is what Trinity have always said was required for us, so why should we accept anything less?
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:51 pm  
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I have to agree, while I support WT if that happened it would leave a bad taste in my mouth ... I am nowhere near as passionate
about RL as I was 10 years ago, and it would be another nail in the coffin for me.


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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:52 pm  
Fordy wrote:
Because Matchday income alone is not enough to run and sustain a viable business.
The club need to be able to run their business from the stadium 52 weeks a year, not just on 15 or so matchdays. If the club don't have the ability to generate income from conferences, parties, weddings etc then they cannot grow the business.

Do you think Cas would be accepting moving into a new stadium (if/when it ever gets built) with no facility to generate income from it on anything other than on matchdays??? They know that their deal provides them with a long term arrangement to grow their business. That is what Trinity have always said was required for us, so why should we accept anything less?


Why then are we not willing to pay a commercial rent or do we we want all the income with no financial input other than the name Wakefield Trinity.
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:53 pm  
Think most of us had the feeling that the powers that be have no intention of delivering what was promised to the club/city. All we get is one move on the chess board after another to save face and/or waste more time until we go away - ultimately resulting in no stadium. Unless of course the council/developer can make loads of money out of it...but hey lets forget what the original deal that took the Newmarket land out of Green Belt in the first place. Let them build the stadium and find someone to pay unsustainable amounts to play in it :thumb:

Interesting that the last council statement says they are looking for local clubs to become tenants so they can incorporate their needs into the designs, I thought this was all already designed and planned out?! :THINK:
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:11 pm  
Why should WT pay a commercial rent at BV when the original terms at Newmarket was a peppercorn rent ,its the councils idea to do up BV.
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:18 pm  
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Why should WT pay a commercial rent at BV when the original terms at Newmarket was a peppercorn rent ,its the councils idea to do up BV.


The problem is that reading the post from TRB we were not to make any returns on the use of the land.
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:58 pm  
One thing thats cropped up on both council statements that i don't think has been mentioned on here is..

Wakefield Trinity’s owners then walked away from the talks, stating they were ‘proceeding with alternative arrangements’.

Is this actually true? If so, what are those arrangements?
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:21 pm  
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One thing thats cropped up on both council statements that i don't think has been mentioned on here is..

Wakefield Trinity’s owners then walked away from the talks, stating they were ‘proceeding with alternative arrangements’.

Is this actually true? If so, what are those arrangements?


Another thing that doesn't seem to add up. The club were submitting a business plan for the 31st weren't they? So why would the club spend time putting a business plan together for the 31st then walk away prior to said deadline? Surely the likelihood is that the club submitted a business plan that the council/developer didn't agree with then rejected, resulting in talks being halted. Not the other way round as suggested?
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Re: DEADLINE : Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:20 pm  
And why would the club arrange to put a business plan together for the 31st October knowing the Chairman would be on holiday and not in a particularly good position to address any problems/developments?
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