Re: CC SF | Hull FC v Leeds Rhinos : Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:26 am
PrinterThe wrote:
For all the slating of the teams ability this is still a side and coach who had an 8-0 record against Hull & Radford prior to Saturday so can't all be too bad, even when we were dreadful last year we did the double over Hull and they were the only team not to beat us in an awful season for us....before anyone says meaningful games Hull could've won the LLS if they got past us in 2016.
I think more credit has to be given to Hull, they've got a confidence in the cup that can't be denied. Us, Cas, Wigan, Wire and Saints have all been beaten in the last 18 months. Sometimes a team find a groove, Wire in the cup 2009-2013 and us at Old Trafford for nearly a decade.
Like mentioned earlier we had an 8-0 streak against Hull, we have a similar record vs Cas but in the negative column, would finally snapping that record in the playoffs call for the head of Powell, Gale and Co?
Last year was a freak due to the floods no matter how much anyone mocks as clearly shown by our 2nd place now. Let's be realistic dropping back into the pack was always likely after Leeds lost such special players.....(players which certain fans said should go at the end of 2013 & 2014 and thus not lead us to a treble btw although they'll deny it)
Does the club always make the right decision on recruitment and retention? No, no club does but it hasn't done too bad now has it and let's not pretend that most of the keyboard CEO's on here would've made poor calls wrt to ditching older players pre 2015 treble.
Honestly it's not "always sticking up for the club" it's just st giving them enough credit because they have deliver more success than we could've dreamt of.
I'm not an apologist, I just realise (maybe because I work with several Wakey fans) that I'm so fortunate to have Leeds ced through our clubs greatest era.....most fans don't get to experience that. I hear Hudds fans talk about winning all the trophies 100 years ago even though they weren't born for 50 years later. Guys my age born in the mid 80's saying how the likes of Billy Bremner or Norman Hunter are their favourite ever United players even those that they never got the chance to see them live and experience their success live at the time.
This club isn't perfect, it's doesn't get every decision right.......but by god it's given us more memories in that the last 15 years than most other sports fans will get in a lifetime even if they're lucky enough to follow for 80/80 years.
I'm not saying don't be critical of poor showings, but when it gets to slander and unfounded accusations and muck slinging about them just because they don't run the club how you'd like them it's too far.
They've given us enough good times to deserve more respect than they're getting.
I think more credit has to be given to Hull, they've got a confidence in the cup that can't be denied. Us, Cas, Wigan, Wire and Saints have all been beaten in the last 18 months. Sometimes a team find a groove, Wire in the cup 2009-2013 and us at Old Trafford for nearly a decade.
Like mentioned earlier we had an 8-0 streak against Hull, we have a similar record vs Cas but in the negative column, would finally snapping that record in the playoffs call for the head of Powell, Gale and Co?
Last year was a freak due to the floods no matter how much anyone mocks as clearly shown by our 2nd place now. Let's be realistic dropping back into the pack was always likely after Leeds lost such special players.....(players which certain fans said should go at the end of 2013 & 2014 and thus not lead us to a treble btw although they'll deny it)
Does the club always make the right decision on recruitment and retention? No, no club does but it hasn't done too bad now has it and let's not pretend that most of the keyboard CEO's on here would've made poor calls wrt to ditching older players pre 2015 treble.
Honestly it's not "always sticking up for the club" it's just st giving them enough credit because they have deliver more success than we could've dreamt of.
I'm not an apologist, I just realise (maybe because I work with several Wakey fans) that I'm so fortunate to have Leeds ced through our clubs greatest era.....most fans don't get to experience that. I hear Hudds fans talk about winning all the trophies 100 years ago even though they weren't born for 50 years later. Guys my age born in the mid 80's saying how the likes of Billy Bremner or Norman Hunter are their favourite ever United players even those that they never got the chance to see them live and experience their success live at the time.
This club isn't perfect, it's doesn't get every decision right.......but by god it's given us more memories in that the last 15 years than most other sports fans will get in a lifetime even if they're lucky enough to follow for 80/80 years.
I'm not saying don't be critical of poor showings, but when it gets to slander and unfounded accusations and muck slinging about them just because they don't run the club how you'd like them it's too far.
They've given us enough good times to deserve more respect than they're getting.
Given some clues in this & previous posts, I would guess that our ages are not too far apart. I too am extremely grateful & relieved for the decade of success that we have achieved after witnessing decades of mediocrity & disappointment & looking on with envy at the Wigan, Widnes etc "golden years".
But this is a message board for goodness' sake! The rubbish I have highlighted you can only be directing towards one or two (literally) individuals at best. Comments about CEO, coach & players are posted because that is what people believe. We are all supporters who desperately want the good times to keep on coming (even though we realise that they are not going to be quite so prolific as 2004-2015).
You & others see (I assume) BMD as the continued answer to our coaching position. I & others do not. One or two people perhaps post a little colourfully in their frustration with the managed decline they are witnessing, but most give reasoned arguments for a change in coaching direction (or, indeed, where recruitment is failing, or players' failings).
Just because we have had a decade of success does not mean that we should all sit meekly & accept whatever the club might do!
You criticise, berate & call for the dropping/sacking-off of players. Why is this not OK with coaching staff/management?