Re: Stone Out !!! : Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:28 am  

brearley84 wrote:

stone was handed similar here, struggling team lacking in confidence and given players he hadnt signed for 2017

the club is in a rebuilding phase, so far its going ok but will take a good while..top 8 is progres this season

I don't know your team circumstances, but I don't think it was similar.
The Bennett signed "stars" just refused to play ball with Stone.
BJ Leiluea showed up at training a stone overweight and ruined training sessions by pretending to take part, but mucking up every play - till Stone released him.
Darius Boyd collected his million dollar salary, but got a medical certificate saying he was depressed and took his wife on a holiday to the south of France till he was released.
Beau Scott and others just went through the motions till they were released.
Stone had well over half his salary cap tied up in players who had signed up to play under the super coach, and were never going to give him a chance to coach them.

Re: Stone Out !!! : Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:48 am  

roopy wrote:

I don't know your team circumstances, but I don't think it was similar.
The Bennett signed "stars" just refused to play ball with Stone.
BJ Leiluea showed up at training a stone overweight and ruined training sessions by pretending to take part, but mucking up every play - till Stone released him.
Darius Boyd collected his million dollar salary, but got a medical certificate saying he was depressed and took his wife on a holiday to the south of France till he was released.
Beau Scott and others just went through the motions till they were released.
Stone had well over half his salary cap tied up in players who had signed up to play under the super coach, and were never going to give him a chance to coach them.

Well R Stone said it would take 2 years, and he ain't had that yet. For the first time in a couple of years "bar the odd game now and then "we are beginning to show signs of being able to play,
It's still early days yet but all the signs are beginning to look favorable. I don't know what has brought this about but It's more than likely a combination of things, Mamo surely will be part of it, and watching Brough i get the impression someone has had a very serious word with him, He is certainly concentrating on his game more and that is to our good because when he does there is none better.
On top of all this has been the injury situation, I have always maintained that a top coach can get his team to play Whoever is picked, That may be true in certain cases but it is also a bit unrealistic most of the time.
Ikky is really hitting his straps now, and Wakeman is visibly improving, in Fact the whole pack are starting to hold their own, and even dominate in some games, instead of getting a good hiding. This is the most important to me because without it the halves will never shine and the three- quarters will be starved of decent chances.
So whatever they are doing down there, keep doing it, Lets beat Saints and Wigan and we have as good as cracked it. What we are now watching doesn't bear any resemblance in attitude to the team who turned out against Swinton, Keep it going and the fans will turn up.

Re: Stone Out !!! : Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:26 am  

The Chin's Back wrote:

Excellent result today Guys

It would appear that Rick Stone's excellent work with your club and also his undoubted coaching prowess has finally begun to bear fruit for your previously under performing players

It's a good job that Ken Davey is far more patient and knowledgeable than you know it all fans on here, as you lot wanted rid when the results weren't going your way

Anyone brave enough to backtrack and give him the due credit that he deserves?

I'm really pleased for RS that the Giants have turned it about. After the Swinton game it was very hard to support the direction that the team were going in, but since then the improvement has been excellent on a week by week basis. For the first time in a long while, the rugby is decent to watch, the players are putting in a solid shift and the coaching staff deserve credit.

Re: Stone Out !!! : Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:00 pm  

roopy wrote:

I don't know your team circumstances, but I don't think it was similar.
The Bennett signed "stars" just refused to play ball with Stone.
BJ Leiluea showed up at training a stone overweight and ruined training sessions by pretending to take part, but mucking up every play - till Stone released him.
Darius Boyd collected his million dollar salary, but got a medical certificate saying he was depressed and took his wife on a holiday to the south of France till he was released.
Beau Scott and others just went through the motions till they were released.
Stone had well over half his salary cap tied up in players who had signed up to play under the super coach, and were never going to give him a chance to coach them.

newcastle still doing no better i see at the bottom.

Re: Stone Out !!! : Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:22 pm  

l really hope Stone does well, he does not seem to have had the best of breaks in his career, l do acknowledge ozzie coaches know their game, my only worry is he floods the team with his countrymen, they are mercianery, again in general they will only give what they have to, as aposed to Islanders who seem to give their all for the love of the game.
He has good reps bringing on youth, our academy is now producing some very good lads, l think he is probably the right man to build our academy, and bring them on, we see signs of progress at Lockwood, all possitives, the Giants need to build a culture, like Wigan, Leeds, and Saints, if Stone is the man, then that culture can be started by him, its fantacy, but he could do for us what Bennett did for the Bronco,s, l could be completely wrong, he could be as up to now, a second rate coach teaching kids, but if he comes good the Giants should really get their show on the road.

Re: Stone Out !!! : Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:35 pm  

what a difference not having 8 players out injured makes too hey