Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:15 am  

Plenty of "clouded" memories re-Kirke imo for a minimum of his last 2yrs he was a passenger literally & if ever there was a Mc.D fav he was it absolute garbage & failed to punch his weight.
SC blah nowt he wasn't worth paying in washers.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:16 am  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Plenty of "clouded" memories re-Kirke imo for a minimum of his last 2yrs he was a passenger literally & if ever there was a Mc.D fav he was it absolute garbage & failed to punch his weight.
SC blah nowt he wasn't worth paying in washers.

Kirke was found out massively when he was called on for a bit more game time those last couple of years. He did the little JP breather stints ok for a few years because he was solid enough in defence but his willingness to take the ball up and do the hard yards was pretty much non existant and for a bloke his size and build it wasn't good enough. Like i say though, he did his little cameo's ok for a few years and was always trusted in GF's from the bench and never let us down in them.He won't have been on big money either so when i look back in several years time, i would be looking back more fondly on Kirke than Achurch.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:07 am  

Think Kirke's best attribute was his ability to hold up the ball carrier and not let them get on their front and get a quick ptb.....something the team this year have been very poor at.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:30 am  

Even if the best people can say about Kirke is "he never let you down", that still puts him way above Achurch.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:12 am  

I thought Picchi looked useless in his 20 minutes for Leeds. FWIW. Which isn't much.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:31 am  

Kirke has 5 Grand Final rings. Let that sink in

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:42 am  

And Ricky Bibey had plenty of medals, and I think he only played about a 120 games in the super league.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:19 am  

Think we paid £3k from York for Kirke and he will have earned peanuts.........5 grand final rings later people moan about him. He was what he was a 4th or 5th choice prop.

Did people expect this 3k Championship player to really be the equal of JP????

In a salary cap squad you have to have fillers who are happy to play for a small wage to allow players like like Sinny, JP, Ali, Senior, Webb, Maguire, Burrow etc to stay together.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:46 am  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Think we paid £3k from York for Kirke and he will have earned peanuts.........5 grand final rings later people moan about him. He was what he was a 4th or 5th choice prop.

Did people expect this 3k Championship player to really be the equal of JP????

In a salary cap squad you have to have fillers who are happy to play for a small wage to allow players like like Sinny, JP, Ali, Senior, Webb, Maguire, Burrow etc to stay together.

I don't think Kirke was happy to play for a small wage, He probably just knew his realistic value as a player - not very much. I hardly think GH was there offerng him 100k and he was saying ''No gary please, pay me 50k I want mags and burrow to stay with each other, i'm happy to play for a smaller wage''.

It was more about the club knowing the value of having a consistent reliable player low in value, in a salary capped sport.

Re: Isn't Achurch brilliant? : Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:19 pm  

It's fitting that Kirke and Achurch have gone into business together. Two big muscular fellas that can oil each other up and flex in front of the mirrors.

Two of the biggest, big girls blouses to ever waste the gift of a Rhinos first team jersey.