Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:54 am  

Why would it be doubtful he would be here ?? The guy is a class player who has represented his country .....isnt that the kind of player most clubs look for ?? We've got one for nowt so why the bleeding hell wouldn't he be here ? We're hardly going to raise a player of leroys calibre to let him go !!!

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:09 am  

brearley84 wrote:

Brilliant!

one club man and will get a testamonial too

been getting his form back recently and that bodes well for us and maybe getting back into the England team too

leroy ! leroy ! leroy!

In my opinion, Cudjoe is a decent Super League player but should be nowhere near an England shirt. He is at his best with ball in hand but he does tend to just grab at the shirt rather than making a proper tackle. The Aussies or Kiwis would very quickly identify him as the weak link and exploit his defensive short-comings very easily.
As Huddersfield are very good defensively across the rest of the team, I think that Cudjoe's frailties are masked at Super League level but would be exposed in an England shirt where the defensive requirements are so much higher.

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:55 am  

Sarge wrote:

In my opinion, Cudjoe is a decent Super League player but should be nowhere near an England shirt. He is at his best with ball in hand but he does tend to just grab at the shirt rather than making a proper tackle. The Aussies or Kiwis would very quickly identify him as the weak link and exploit his defensive short-comings very easily.
As Huddersfield are very good defensively across the rest of the team, I think that Cudjoe's frailties are masked at Super League level but would be exposed in an England shirt where the defensive requirements are so much higher.

you obviously havent watched cudjoe much, watch him week in week out and his defence is top drawer

played plenty of games for england and not looked out of place

he has had a dip in form but is coming back now and was great again lastnight

very happy to have him for another 5 years

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:11 am  

Sarge wrote:

In my opinion, Cudjoe is a decent Super League player but should be nowhere near an England shirt. He is at his best with ball in hand but he does tend to just grab at the shirt rather than making a proper tackle. The Aussies or Kiwis would very quickly identify him as the weak link and exploit his defensive short-comings very easily.
As Huddersfield are very good defensively across the rest of the team, I think that Cudjoe's frailties are masked at Super League level but would be exposed in an England shirt where the defensive requirements are so much higher.

He makes on average 25 tackles a game. Has the same tackle success rate as Watkins. And missed none last night. Where this idea comes from that he can't tackle I just don't get. It's rare an offload comes from a cudjoe tackle.

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:05 am  

For all his defensive frailties that other fans see, and for what the Aussie and the kiwis would do to against him, I recall both Cudjoe and Watkins standing up well against their 3/4's in the World Cup

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:54 am  

brearley84 wrote:

you obviously havent watched cudjoe much, watch him week in week out and his defence is top drawer

played plenty of games for england and not looked out of place

he has had a dip in form but is coming back now and was great again lastnight

very happy to have him for another 5 years

I thought some of you might get precious about him, but my comments are valid.

I've watched him a few times both at matches and on TV. He's average at best in defence and is covered by the rest of your team.

He has good games (as most good / average centres do) but he doesn't inspire me with confidence with his one on one tackling.

Take those claret and gold coloured glasses off and form an objective view.

As stated, he is a good super league centre who is not good enough in defence to pull on an England shirt.

Sorry if this offends, but it is my opinion

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:06 pm  

Sadly the evidence says you're wrong

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:08 pm  

Sarge wrote:

I thought some of you might get precious about him, but my comments are valid.

I've watched him a few times both at matches and on TV. He's average at best in defence and is covered by the rest of your team.

He has good games (as most good / average centres do) but he doesn't inspire me with confidence with his one on one tackling.

Take those claret and gold coloured glasses off and form an objective view.

As stated, he is a good super league centre who is not good enough in defence to pull on an England shirt.

Sorry if this offends, but it is my opinion

I kind of agree with you.

At times, he gets caught out and McGillvary has to cover. Which can then leave him isolated and people have a go at him for his poor defence.

His 'grab' tackle technique can also be an issue and 2 or 3 other players have to come in to finish off the tackle.

I do hope he can get back to his best though, but in my view there are many other centres ahead of him for an international call up

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:05 pm  

GiantMisterE wrote:

I kind of agree with you.

At times, he gets caught out and McGillvary has to cover. Which can then leave him isolated and people have a go at him for his poor defence.

His 'grab' tackle technique can also be an issue and 2 or 3 other players have to come in to finish off the tackle.

I do hope he can get back to his best though, but in my view there are many other centres ahead of him for an international call up

I kind of tend to agree as well, We concede a fair few tries down that side , and there has to be a reason for that.
What you referred to as his Grab tackle is what worries me about his game, I don't know why he has developed that style at all, He lets the opposition get alongside him and tackles them side on by the shirt or whatever, Maybe he is trying to avoid injury, I don't know.

Having said that he handled the big guy at Catalan very well, and he did a fair job last night, He was definitely England standard a couple of years ago, Maybe he's on his way back, Hopefully he is.

Re: Leroy signs a five year extension : Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:19 pm  

He has always had that "wrangle" tackle and 90% of the time it's very effective at putting the player down and stopping a quick ptb

It also means any offload is likely to be spilled so it's not a bad trick

Hopefully were seeing him get back to his very best as the semi-finals approach