Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:42 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Richard Gunn ended up at Fev hence the analogy I made earlier.

What more do you want FFS?

Richard gunn was a victim of doug laughtons motivation talks. Gunn asked him why he had been dropped after a hand full of solid showings. Dougie said " because your f##king crap"

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:22 pm  

DHM wrote:

$h!t, obviously.

Leeds before Rhinos just used to be called Leeds RLFC you know

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:29 pm  

gingdong wrote:

Leeds before Rhinos just used to be called Leeds RLFC you know

I think that's what it says on the front of my 100% viscose 1983/4 season shirt, that I "grew" out of about 25 years ago.

I was joking by the way. If you stopped by this board a bit more often oevr the last 10 years you would realise how touchy a few people are over Gary H's squad development strategy. Since the McD era began mild discomfort has been replaced by borderline hysteria at the apparent innability of the club to develop and/or retain quality young players from the academy - particularly our obsession with props which goes back to before we signed (then 2nd row forward) Jamie Peacock and Kylie.

I know you asked a serious question, but it's the off season so what did you expect?

[Bullseye]

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:40 pm  

Baldwinson certainly didn't look like SL standard for us last season.

He may come good but it's hard for young props to make a mark at top level without going past the 19 years cut off point.

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:24 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Baldwinson certainly didn't look like SL standard for us last season.

He may come good but it's hard for young props to make a mark at top level without going past the 19 years cut off point.

A bit like halves really. There are the very rare exceptions but in general props need some time to really develop strength. It's a gamble that the cap, competition structure and squad limitations make very difficult to take. Baldwinson looks like he has the frame to fill out, I still don't think Singleton has and I'm not convined he will get any better.

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:24 pm  

Singleton looks like he's one of those players who can only play prop but hasn't got the basic size and strength required to be a great one. He could become a reasonable workhorse if he gets fit, but I suspect part of the reason for looking a tad overweight is to try to make up for basic lack of bulk. Wikipedia has him down at about 15 st 8 - if right that's really small for a prop nowadays.

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:10 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Singleton looks like he's one of those players who can only play prop but hasn't got the basic size and strength required to be a great one. He could become a reasonable workhorse if he gets fit, but I suspect part of the reason for looking a tad overweight is to try to make up for basic lack of bulk. Wikipedia has him down at about 15 st 8 - if right that's really small for a prop nowadays.

I agree. I thibk that he will always like the size to be truly effective in the modern game nor does he have a frame that can be developed sufficently to carry more weight.
Hence why on the surface Mulhern looks the much better long term prospect provided that he has the bottle for the fight.

Re: Tonks, Foster, Baldwinson, Minns : Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:09 pm  

Surprised foster was not kept.