Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:07 pm  

Bring bad licensing, get cas and wakey thrown out due ti their stadiums as 100 years is a bit much now

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:17 pm  

MR FRISK wrote:

If they do relegated i think its because of spending too much on upgrading the ground and also bad Managers and players that cant play properely

I don't think we can really slag Leeds off for upgrading their ground.

The new one is looking great, and at least it's still in the same place as the old.

I wish our new stadium was where Central Park had used to be. It would feel like there was a more of a connection to our glorious past, and some of the best pubs in Wigan wouldn't have died on their a***s.

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:27 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I don't think we can really slag Leeds off for upgrading their ground.

The new one is looking great, and at least it's still in the same place as the old.

I wish our new stadium was where Central Park had used to be. It would feel like there was a more of a connection to our glorious past, and some of the best pubs in Wigan wouldn't have died on their a***s.

too true pal

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:50 pm  

The great thing about Leeds ability to finance their new ground is that us away fans get to help pay for it. We get to have no roof, a crumbling terrace and a 3 mile hike to the nearest bog all for £27.

Always giving the Yorkies.

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:18 pm  

Cherry_&_White wrote:

Leeds would be back in no time, and it wouldn't do too much damage to them in terms of fanbase/what they'll bring to the game. It might even invigorate them with a clean break with what has been all in all a dreadful few years of drift for them.

Undoubtedly bad for the game's appeal to a mass audience, but I wouldn't entertain any ideas of changing the structure to keep them in. Same with a lot the discussions with licencing a few years back, we have to ask some of the fundamental questions about what sport is there for. Fair competition, rewarding success without prejudice. I said the same when we almost got relegated, it would've been a disgrace if it was manufactured that we stayed up just because of our name.

It would be hilarious for a few weeks, bad overall, but ultimately I don't think it will happen anyway. We had quite a bit more than them at headingly the other week, but they had some big physical units which caused us some real problems, even if the quality wasn't there. The likes of Merrin, Hurrell, Singleton, even Cuthbertson will see them over the line in my view, still worry for London over the course of a full season.

This, in spades.

But just going back to comments about SL not being the be all and end all od rugby league: I quite agree, but nevertheless aren't league fans a bit too backward looking? You (by and large) don't hear football fans banging on about George Best and Denis Law, let alone Dixie Dean and Tommy Lawton.

I would say this to people wishing for winter rugby and corner flags in play:

a) it's just not going to happen (and I'm sure you realise that). But more importantly,

b) Ask 100 kids in the teens and twenties, the future supporters of the sport. Do you really imagine they would support your view? Not a chance! In fact, if they are at all keen on the game, they may well watch the NRL anyway, and can see from that what a great game we have when played by skilful players under good conditions..

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:36 am  

moto748 wrote:

This, in spades.

But just going back to comments about SL not being the be all and end all od rugby league: I quite agree, but nevertheless aren't league fans a bit too backward looking? You (by and large) don't hear football fans banging on about George Best and Denis Law, let alone Dixie Dean and Tommy Lawton.

I would say this to people wishing for winter rugby and corner flags in play:

a) it's just not going to happen (and I'm sure you realise that). But more importantly,

b) Ask 100 kids in the teens and twenties, the future supporters of the sport. Do you really imagine they would support your view? Not a chance! In fact, if they are at all keen on the game, they may well watch the NRL anyway, and can see from that what a great game we have when played by skilful players under good conditions..

The only thing I miss about winter rugby is the Boxing Day derby. And sacrificing that was a small price to pay for nicer weather. Anyone who yearns for a winter season wasn't there. It wasn't just the rain and sleet, or the matches cancelled due to frost and snow, it was trying to relax and drink beer in subzero conditions, it was watching pitches turn quickly to mud heaps.

However, I do think that we've failed to deal with certain issues it threw up. The Challenge Cup seems unimportant now, when back in the day it was traditionally the big event of the spring, while our attendances die off appallingly during the holiday season.

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:20 am  

Cruncher wrote:

The only thing I miss about winter rugby is the Boxing Day derby. And sacrificing that was a small price to pay for nicer weather. Anyone who yearns for a winter season wasn't there. It wasn't just the rain and sleet, or the matches cancelled due to frost and snow, it was trying to relax and drink beer in subzero conditions, it was watching pitches turn quickly to mud heaps.

However, I do think that we've failed to deal with certain issues it threw up. The Challenge Cup seems unimportant now, when back in the day it was traditionally the big event of the spring, while our attendances die off appallingly during the holiday season.

I think in addition to the boxing day derby I'd say we have missed the Kangaroo tours as well. Especially the Wigan v Australia matches.

There's also the chance we might have had a couple of genuine NRL stars over in their off season (similar to the Brett Kenny days).

But whilst overall Summer rugby is better for the spectators comfort the sport has suffered during the time but that can be part attributed to other reasons (salary cap, consumer habits have changed...etc).

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:43 am  

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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:48 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I don't think we can really slag Leeds off for upgrading their ground.

The new one is looking great, and at least it's still in the same place as the old.

I wish our new stadium was where Central Park had used to be. It would feel like there was a more of a connection to our glorious past, and some of the best pubs in Wigan wouldn't have died on their a***s.

Categorically this

The pubs are all dire now and its a real shame

Re: Leeds & Relegation : Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:17 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote: Some fascinating stuff on this podcast. Well worth a listen. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/t ... 0442572451 That's a great listen. Funnily enough they've raised some of the same points we have above! Toronto won't work and Bradford need to be brought back as it's good for the game.

Bigredwarrior wrote: Some fascinating stuff on this podcast. Well worth a listen. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/t ... 0442572451 That's a great listen. Funnily enough they've raised some of the same points we have above! Toronto won't work and Bradford need to be brought back as it's good for the game.