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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:06 pm  
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Only because it would give one of the smaller teams a better chance of winning the league at long , long last . 8)

What do you mean 'smaller team'?
Smaller club?... lessor reputation?... lower fan base?
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:35 am  
Leeds would be back in no time, and it wouldn't do too much damage to them in terms of fanbase/what they'll bring to the game. It might even invigorate them with a clean break with what has been all in all a dreadful few years of drift for them.

Undoubtedly bad for the game's appeal to a mass audience, but I wouldn't entertain any ideas of changing the structure to keep them in. Same with a lot the discussions with licencing a few years back, we have to ask some of the fundamental questions about what sport is there for. Fair competition, rewarding success without prejudice. I said the same when we almost got relegated, it would've been a disgrace if it was manufactured that we stayed up just because of our name.

It would be hilarious for a few weeks, bad overall, but ultimately I don't think it will happen anyway. We had quite a bit more than them at headingly the other week, but they had some big physical units which caused us some real problems, even if the quality wasn't there. The likes of Merrin, Hurrell, Singleton, even Cuthbertson will see them over the line in my view, still worry for London over the course of a full season.
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:13 pm  
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Undoubtedly bad for the game's appeal to a mass audience, but I wouldn't entertain any ideas of changing the structure to keep them in. Same with a lot the discussions with licencing a few years back, we have to ask some of the fundamental questions about what sport is there for. Fair competition, rewarding success without prejudice. I said the same when we almost got relegated, it would've been a disgrace if it was manufactured that we stayed up just because of our name.


Hand on my heart I think I'd prefer a closed shop like the NRL.

The yoyo effect of P&R isn't good for anyone apart from a very small minority of clubs who can handle it. Teams like Leigh, Widnes and Bradford have all heavily suffered because of it (not the only issue they all faced tho).

I'd ideally like to see 12 or 14 teams all playing out of decent modern stadiums, with academies and enough revenue to support a decent & competitive playing squad. The only way to get that imo is by making some tough choices, closing the doors and letting them strengthen. A competitive league that's of a decent standard will increase viewing figures and in turn the revenue generated by it.
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:56 pm  
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Hand on my heart I think I'd prefer a closed shop like the NRL.

The yoyo effect of P&R isn't good for anyone apart from a very small minority of clubs who can handle it. Teams like Leigh, Widnes and Bradford have all heavily suffered because of it (not the only issue they all faced tho).

I'd ideally like to see 12 or 14 teams all playing out of decent modern stadiums, with academies and enough revenue to support a decent & competitive playing squad. The only way to get that imo is by making some tough choices, closing the doors and letting them strengthen. A competitive league that's of a decent standard will increase viewing figures and in turn the revenue generated by it.



I'd agree with this, maybe close it at 14 for now, and say to those outside if they really REALLY want to sit at the top table, they need to take some time to take it seriously, likewise to certain others in SL.

The problem we've had in recent past is teams that were lurking around outside SL promotion were flawed, fev would never have succeeded in SL, whitehaven (going a bit further back)were planning on staying part time if they got promoted.

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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:01 pm  
Can they increase it to 14 clubs mid term was it not set in stone there would be one club relegated at seasons end this was agreed with and voted on with all the RL clubs taking part. Reminds me of Brexit the vote was to come out of the EU now they want another vote to stay in.
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:09 pm  
Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
I'd agree with this, maybe close it at 14 for now, and say to those outside if they really REALLY want to sit at the top table, they need to take some time to take it seriously, likewise to certain others in SL.

The problem we've had in recent past is teams that were lurking around outside SL promotion were flawed, fev would never have succeeded in SL, whitehaven (going a bit further back)were planning on staying part time if they got promoted.

Start taking your business seriously.(not yours, the royal your)


Spot on.

Let's not kid ourselves that there's this enormous pool of teams all knocking on the door to be big SL clubs. There's some traditional clubs that are simply big only in name & when you scratch under the surface they simply don't have the resources or infrastructure to do anything of note.

I really do think the game has flip flopped around enough and it's time to draw a line in the sand and say to some current SL sides - look you've got five years and it's make or break time, not only for you, but for the game as a whole in the UK. Invest in youth and facilities instead of playing the blame game and if you do that everyone we'll all prosper.

It's never going to happen tho as those without the vision to be the best have the largest say in the league.
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:11 pm  
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Can they increase it to 14 clubs mid term was it not set in stone there would be one club relegated at seasons end this was agreed with and voted on with all the RL clubs taking part. Reminds me of Brexit the vote was to come out of the EU now they want another vote to stay in.


It's not too far to think that next season we could have Toronto, Catalan, London and Hudds in the same league. It might seem harsh, but where are the fans of these clubs? That's four home games with even less atmosphere than normal - what does that look like to the casual viewer?
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:28 pm  
I don't think Leeds will be relegated but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest should I be wrong. Assuming they do go down and their players become available are any of them worth making a play for.
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:19 pm  
If they do relegated i think its because of spending too much on upgrading the ground and also bad Managers and players that cant play properely
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Re: Leeds & Relegation : Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:46 pm  
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I don't think Leeds will be relegated but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest should I be wrong. Assuming they do go down and their players become available are any of them worth making a play for.

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