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Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:24 am  
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It will forever be an issue for Broncos though. If we are in the Championship it will be a case of will we go up, if we are in SL it will be a case of will we go down. I think the club is at a point where it needs to decide what it wants. We are currently meandering along on a road to no where. It will take an initial outlay by Hughes (or someone) but some sensible recruitment on the field, and some sensible marketing off it could make the world of difference to us. Does not have to cost the world but needs to be smart. Unfortunately Hughes does not seem to have a track record of doing either with London. He has wasted money and made poor decisions that have left us where we are. I do wonder at times if the club even want to be SL.
Had that been done this season like it should have, who knows where we could be. We have the makings of a decent squad with some very good youngsters coming through. As it stands at the end of this season we will be back to square one having to build a squad to get out of the championship, in effect, making the previous two years pointless.

The comment about us spending Hughes money for him, why shouldnt he be spending. like I said, if he did not waste it and spent it sensibly it would not be an issue

Good knows how our squad will look next season. We could struggle to make top 5 in the Champ. As we currently stand in our present form, is staying in SL even a good idea??

I am at the point of zero faith in the club, I have stopped going now. The players and Ward have my upmost respect and are doing a great job but how long before Ward decides to move on. Its a constant rebuilding with us but it seems the foundations are made of sand.

Serious question hand on heart, who can say that they have any faith in the club re the direction it is going. Too much reactive or nothing at all rather than proactive.


I think DH has decided what he wants which is to spend a certain amount of money. I think we are also aware of where he will and will not spend his money. Getting into SL was probably an unexpected bonus. I don't know if DH looks for other "investors" but we seem to need them if we are to have any ambition to grow.
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:07 am  
I don't know why but I had hoped that by now the Trailfinders owners might have wanted to put a few bob into the club - I know they want to get Ealing into Union's top flight but I was hoping they might have wanted in to a top flight ( at present ) League club who just happen to be tenants here.
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:34 am  
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I don't know why but I had hoped that by now the Trailfinders owners might have wanted to put a few bob into the club - I know they want to get Ealing into Union's top flight but I was hoping they might have wanted in to a top flight ( at present ) League club who just happen to be tenants here.


Assuming Trailfinders benefit from increased attendance via bar takings etc then maybe there is a win-win with them using some of their marketing expertise. However, I've not been to an Ealing Trailfinders game so don't know if they do a better job of attracting crowds and generating a match day experience.
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:37 am  
Should we get relegated but continue as a fulltime squad. Recruitment will be a lot easier for that very reason.
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:03 pm  
Pitts is under contract for 2020.
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:40 pm  
jbuzza wrote:
Assuming Trailfinders benefit from increased attendance via bar takings etc then maybe there is a win-win with them using some of their marketing expertise. However, I've not been to an Ealing Trailfinders game so don't know if they do a better job of attracting crowds and generating a match day experience.

Our mate, A Kiwi lass, lives not 500 yards from Trailfinders. She is a ST Holder at Quins (I know....I've asked why too) and she attends Trailfinders Games when Quins are away....she had no idea that the Broncos played there.
THIS IS THE loving ISSUE..........

I know I go on (and on and on and on) about it, but without any desire to inform, it makes not a jot of difference if we win SL, the Challenge Cup or are in League 1........nobody knows we exist! :DEPRESSED:
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:16 pm  
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.......nobody knows we exist! :DEPRESSED:


DH clearly isn't going to address this issue. So in the absence of any interest from the owner I was wondering if there would be any incentive for Trailfinders to grow the crowds.
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The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Walker and Pitts : Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:30 am  
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DH clearly isn't going to address this issue.

I have tried.....on many occasions (including last month after Money Lovers stupid attention grabbing stunt) to reach out on this topic, but he just won't listen..... :FRUSRATED:
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:35 pm  
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It will forever be an issue for Broncos though. If we are in the Championship it will be a case of will we go up, if we are in SL it will be a case of will we go down. I think the club is at a point where it needs to decide what it wants. We are currently meandering along on a road to no where. It will take an initial outlay by Hughes (or someone) but some sensible recruitment on the field, and some sensible marketing off it could make the world of difference to us. Does not have to cost the world but needs to be smart. Unfortunately Hughes does not seem to have a track record of doing either with London. He has wasted money and made poor decisions that have left us where we are. I do wonder at times if the club even want to be SL.
Had that been done this season like it should have, who knows where we could be. We have the makings of a decent squad with some very good youngsters coming through. As it stands at the end of this season we will be back to square one having to build a squad to get out of the championship, in effect, making the previous two years pointless.

The comment about us spending Hughes money for him, why shouldnt he be spending. like I said, if he did not waste it and spent it sensibly it would not be an issue

Good knows how our squad will look next season. We could struggle to make top 5 in the Champ. As we currently stand in our present form, is staying in SL even a good idea??

I am at the point of zero faith in the club, I have stopped going now. The players and Ward have my upmost respect and are doing a great job but how long before Ward decides to move on. Its a constant rebuilding with us but it seems the foundations are made of sand.

Serious question hand on heart, who can say that they have any faith in the club re the direction it is going. Too much reactive or nothing at all rather than proactive.

How can you say it will take an initial out lay by Hughs to get the club going in the right direction but you will not support him by spending your money by not going to games?
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Re: Walker and Pitts : Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:59 pm  
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How can you say it will take an initial out lay by Hughs to get the club going in the right direction but you will not support him by spending your money by not going to games?



Quite easily. I have put plenty in previous to the club and "supported" him, he has not managed to make any use of it thus far. Unless you call running the club into the ground a success.
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