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wrencat1873 wrote:

If you get away with something which is against the rules, it's cheating.

Slowing the PTB down isn’t against the rules, doing it too long is.

On the same line as tackling isn’t against the rules but if you get it wrong you can be penalised, doesn’t make you cheaters.

Kicking into touch isn’t cheating but if you get it wrong and kick out on the full then you’re penalised, doesn’t make the team cheaters just means they failed to execute a certain tactic/aspect of the game correctly.

I'm more concerned with Wigan injuring our players than slowing down the ptb.

Dropkick Murphy wrote:

I'm more concerned with Wigan injuring our players than slowing down the ptb.

If I were a Wigan fan I’d be concerned with Ben Westwood slyly punching one of the HB’s in the face on the ground.

ThePrinter wrote:

If I were a Wigan fan I’d be concerned with Ben Westwood slyly punching one of the HB’s in the face on the ground.

If I were a wigan fan I'd be concerned about ben flower knocking an ineffective half back out.

Dropkick Murphy wrote:

I'm more concerned with Wigan injuring our players than slowing down the ptb.

Aaahhhh that old chestnut.
I'm sure there will be one eye (Pun intended) on the likes of Westwood and Hill as well.
I'm sure George or Tommy (don't think he'll risk it on Tommy) will try their best not to get their eye socket and cheekbone fractured face butting Westwoods fist.

ThePrinter wrote:

Slowing the PTB down isn’t against the rules, doing it too long is.

On the same line as tackling isn’t against the rules but if you get it wrong you can be penalised, doesn’t make you cheaters.

Kicking into touch isn’t cheating but if you get it wrong and kick out on the full then you’re penalised, doesn’t make the team cheaters just means they failed to execute a certain tactic/aspect of the game correctly.

There are loads of infringements around the ruck area and some sides are more clever that others at exploiting these to gain advantage.
Some call it being professional where others may say cheating.
Equally, some players know how to "work" the ref, whereas others seem less able to do so.
Of course, they, also, are just being professional.

ThePrinter wrote:

If I were a Wigan fan I’d be concerned with Ben Westwood slyly punching one of the HB’s in the face on the ground.

No problem as long as he gets away with it and doesn't mess it up like another Ben did.

Jukesays wrote:

Aaahhhh that old chestnut.
I'm sure there will be one eye (Pun intended) on the likes of Westwood and Hill as well.
I'm sure George or Tommy (don't think he'll risk it on Tommy) will try their best not to get their eye socket and cheekbone fractured face butting Westwoods fist.

What wire need to do is make sure with certainty that if they risk some foul play, the play fouled has to go to hospital and not go on to win the harry Sunderland....proper foul play...not this tickling the face lark.

Oxford Exile wrote:

What wire need to do is make sure with certainty that if they risk some foul play, the play fouled has to go to hospital and not go on to win the harry Sunderland....proper foul play...not this tickling the face lark.

Oh make no bones about it, he could have gone off and not won the Harry sunderland.
But just like Sean Edwards who was also the victim of a terrible assault he stayed on and toughed it out and helped us get the win.

As I said earlier, winners will be grinners, 99.9% of the rest of the time for the losers it's just excuses.
Ill let other teams come up with excuses why they haven't or didn't win.
I'll give most Leeds fans credit, they get the job done and worry about being called all the names under the sun after they've won.
That's what being a grand final winner takes.