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Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:56 pm
Posted by wakefieldwall on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:56 pm
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wakeytrin wrote:
Which event is this?


wrenthorpe club - fundraiser for the Outwood School RL team trip to Australia. Q&A session, raffle etc think its £15
What would a Cockney know about rugby league?
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:02 pm
Posted by wakeytrin on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:02 pm
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wakefieldwall wrote:
wrenthorpe club - fundraiser for the Outwood School RL team trip to Australia. Q&A session, raffle etc think its £15

Was just asking as I was going to go but event has been postponed due to insufficient interest.
Wakefields roller coaster ride continues.
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:11 pm
Posted by try scorer on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:11 pm
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If youd have read my early post on thi thread vastman youd have seen that i didnt know what hampshire had been offered all i had said that an offer befitting a young player with potential should have been made i understand your remark that chester and carter want the best for our club but are they right they wont be the first to make a mistake but we dont know do we until someone officially says exactly what hes been offered , as i said earlier if ryan or is agent are asking ridiculous money then they are being foolish ,i dont know you from adam old lad but i do know that you cant lecture me on ins and outs of rugby league and how things go on between clubs and young players
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:26 pm
Posted by Shifty Cat on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:26 pm
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chissitt wrote:
Nothing obvious about it, at Leigh he was payed a decent contract nothing more, just because it was more than what he's getting now does not mean he was a bit spoiled to use your words, if you want to talk about being a bit spoiled then look no farther than Wigan where he was paid as much as Leigh and Wakey together.

I don't know what Wigan was paying him tbh chissitt, I've just seen over the past couple of years what Leigh fans have said he was on there and a few have mentioned it on here as well. The thing about Leigh is how true is it that he was on around £100k that's been banded around a lot is another thing. You are probably placed better than most to know than myself & others are. If that figure's even remotely close though at Leigh and you're saying he got that plus what he's on currently at Trin, then he's obviously had a big come down in wages through his shortish career so far.
I just hope he's happy with what Trinity think he's worth and can settle here and develop as a player because ateotd I think that's what everyone wants. Especially as he himself has been wanting nail a halfback place since he turned pro and at Trinity he's going to get that chance here, where other supposed better & more experienced coaches haven't seen him as that previously.
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:28 pm
Posted by FickleFingerOfFate on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:28 pm
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Hampshire said he was on a third of what he was on at Leigh and to me, that's pretty easy to work out.
So is he worth double after being on a lower contract this year?
This is why it's important to try and get 5th place, that 'extra' money comes in handy to a club like ours and ensures that we can still keep progressing.
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:18 pm
Posted by Shifty Cat on Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:18 pm
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FickleFingerOfFate wrote:
Hampshire said he was on a third of what he was on at Leigh and to me, that's pretty easy to work out.
So is he worth double after being on a lower contract this year?
This is why it's important to try and get 5th place, that 'extra' money comes in handy to a club like ours and ensures that we can still keep progressing.

Straight from the horse's mouth then. :)
Agree we have to keep going for wins for the reasons you state and tbf they have been.

Obviously, with a club like ours, his contract has to be in line with others of similar value & standing. He's imo worth more to us now than when he initially came and proved especially in certain games that he can be a good halfback with huge potential for more, but how much more money he's worth atm is anyone's guess. MC along with CC would be the men to judge, then do the sums. Then it's up to Ryan to say yes or no.

Personally, I think he's staying if I had to guess, hope so anyway.
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:34 am
Posted by bren2k on Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:34 am
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try scorer wrote:
but we dont know do we until someone officially says exactly what hes been offered


And I would hope that doesn't happen; there aren't many industries other than sport in which people's salaries are bandied about, with everyone and his uncle having a view on relative worth, or otherwise - and I don't think it's appropriate or helpful in this case. Particularly given that it's broadly meaningless without all the data - i.e. salaries of every player - which is none of our business.

My view is that MC has proven time and again in recent years that he can value and pay good players sufficiently to entice them to sign with us; and CC appears to be a coach for whom players want to play - so with that in mind, I'm satisfied that they'll make a fair offer to Hampshire, and then it's up to him and his agent to make a decision. Personally, I think his best option would be to play the longer game and do a couple of settled seasons as our starting 7 - then go back to the market - and I hope he does, because he's been great for us and is improving every week. But if he decides he wants cake today, that's up to him.
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:11 pm
Posted by charlie63wildcat on Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:11 pm
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He had a great game vs Matalan tonight. One of his best in a Trinity shirt I thought. Superb try, lively all night. As long as his wage requests are reasonable, I think he is worth the investment
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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:12 pm
Posted by charlie63wildcat on Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:12 pm
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bren2k wrote:
If I were the Catalans GM, I'd be looking for a way out of the Smith signing - he's never been more than average, and by now, his day is done; Drinkwater has been a big part of why they've kicked on so well in the latter half of the season.

Regards Hampshire - I'm with Vasty and others who've said stick, but not if that involves pandering to ridiculous valuations; at 25, he's had more clubs than Tiger Woods, and failed to properly establish himself at any of them - here, he's getting regular starts at 7 and improving week on week. If he sticks with that, his stock will rise considerably over the next couple of years, then he can perhaps go to the market with higher expectations - and a significantly improved outlook on his career in the longer term.
He's a fool if he gets too cocky on his demands now
Re: Rocky - Stick or twist
Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:46 am
Posted by homme vaste on Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:46 am
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Great performance from Rocky last night, pulling the strings and showing some consistency now.

Definitely would not be disappointed if we went into next season with him as our first choice 7.
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