Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:45 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

We struggled because Cuthbertson wasn't playing? Isn't it more a case of we struggled because we're generally rubbish, just as in most games this season, with or without him?

He was dropped for the most important match of the year bar none. That speaks volumes for what Sinfield and Lowes think of his contributions since they've taken over. He's our most experienced prop by far, and the player we ought to be able to look to for on-field leadership - hard runs and leading the way in defence. The reality is he provides no leadership by example in the tough stuff. Having a beard doesn't actually make a prop IMO. And yes, I think assuming a 35-year old will somehow be good when he isn't much cop at 33 is crazy.

He was left out, but he is also playing injured and has been for a while, and we won so the decision has been proven correct.

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:59 am  

Adam Cuthbertson, has been struggling with a hamstring injury. That's what Sir kev said early last week. He was also ill during the week. No excuse for not playing well this year though

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:09 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Indeed but that's the reality we have to deal with at present. The reasons behind this are many but we are where we are at present so let's get behind the team and help the club rebuild

he probably should not play again this year, that was a bad one, clear intent, anybody played the game at any level know that you don't tackle like that unless your trying to hit the opponent

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:42 am  

Homer Simpson wrote:

Latest forecast

Its still Toronto -v- London for the MPG after this weekends results

Predicted Final Standings

14 Salford Win - Toulouse (H), Leeds (A), London (A)
12 Hull KR Win - London (H), Widnes (H), Toulouse (A)
10 Leeds Win - Toronto (H) Halifax (A) - Loss to Salford (H)
8 Toronto Win - Widnes (H), Toulouse (H) - Loss to Leeds (A)
6 London Win - Halifax (H), - Loss HKR (A) Salford (H)
4 Toulouse Win - none - Loss - (HKR (H), Toronto (A), Salford (A)
2 Widnes Win - Halifax (H) - Loss HKR (A), Toronto (A),
0 Halifax Win - none - Loss - Leeds (H), London (A), Widnes (A)

Or if we lose to Toronto, its Rhino's -v- London @ Headingley.

We need to beat Salford next week to make sure we don't need the Toronto game

For any of the brave souls who went to Widnes on Sunday - is it too fanciful to think that Widnes might have a chance of winning in Toronto? That would be a good bonus for us.

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:40 pm  

It would. They know only 3 wins now will get them into them into mpg

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:20 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

There is one way of finding whether they are good enough - play them

Of all our forwards only Parcel (26 including Melbourne) and Singleton (23 including Melbourne) have been selected more times than Oledski 22).

Smith has played 16 times but only been picked by Sinfield twice.

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:59 pm  

If my maths is correct, Leeds could win the next two and lose against Toronto and still not secure an automatic SL spot, however, they could lose the next two and beat Toronto and secure a SL spot. It would come down to points difference on each occasion.

Unless Toronto lose one of the next two then it will likely make our final game against Toronto the big fixture for SL safety regardless of how we do in the next 2 matches.

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:22 pm  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

If my maths is correct, Leeds could win the next two and lose against Toronto and still not secure an automatic SL spot, however, they could lose the next two and beat Toronto and secure a SL spot. It would come down to points difference on each occasion.

Unless Toronto lose one of the next two then it will likely make our final game against Toronto the big fixture for SL safety regardless of how we do in the next 2 matches.

We currently have a fairly healthy points difference but we really need to put Halifax to the sword to keep that intact.

Us winning the next 2 would mean we would be on the same points as Salford (if they win the game after us) and the same points as Hull KR if they win their next 2 , Toronto and Hull KR will have to rack up some points in those games as well

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:03 pm  

It's unlikely Toronto will lose to Toulouse though. 10 points or 2 wins and we are safe. 8 points and lose to Toronto then it's MPG against London for us

Re: 2018 | Middle 8s : Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:36 am  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Of all our forwards only Parcel (26 including Melbourne) and Singleton (23 including Melbourne) have been selected more times than Oledski 22).

Smith has played 16 times but only been picked by Sinfield twice.

It would be interesting to know how many minutes Smith has played in those 16 games.