Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:58 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Whilst i am well aware he got caught out playing with poor players around him, why oh why do people still hold out for Keinhorst and Sutcliffe. Both have been far worse liabilities defensively in their roles in the position this year. Yet Newman’s atracking stats were actually better.

That tells me there is something to work on, with the right team mates, and in a more confident team. It might well not be the answer, but I don’t think he is as far away as made out.

I disagree. It's clear he's not ready for first team on a consistent basis due to his defence, but thats to be expected at his age in the most difficult defensive position. He's a fantastic prosect for sure but needs another full year in the championship imo to iron out his defensive reads.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:41 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Whilst i am well aware he got caught out playing with poor players around him, why oh why do people still hold out for Keinhorst and Sutcliffe. Both have been far worse liabilities defensively in their roles in the position this year. Yet Newman’s atracking stats were actually better.

That tells me there is something to work on, with the right team mates, and in a more confident team. It might well not be the answer, but I don’t think he is as far away as made out.

i don't hold out for either, surcliffe is very poor at the moment, Keinhorst is leaving anyway.
yes there is something to work on with newman that's why i said he is a great prospect, but not ready yet. you say he will look better with better players around him. possibly so, but we have not got better players around him at the moment so playing him the rest of this year, when he is not up to it in a poor side will not do him any good.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:12 am  

FGB wrote:

I'll be suprised if we're not looking at Inu for wing/centre cover who will be a free agent when Widnes are relegated.

Remember afew year ago (2016?) Catalan away he played really well against us. Scored afew tries (hatrick?)

Liked the look of him then, doesn't seem to have done much since. Obviously nothing of any note anyway since he's at Widnes

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:26 am  

Bang wrote:

Remember afew year ago (2016?) Catalan away he played really well against us. Scored afew tries (hatrick?)

Liked the look of him then, doesn't seem to have done much since. Obviously nothing of any note anyway since he's at Widnes

He had huge potential and was the next big thing 9-10 years ago when Hayne was coming through.

Probably just needs the right environment to thrive but he is almost 32

Can kick too...

Junior S'au would be worth a punt too.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:19 pm  

Would love Sau. He's a great player at SL level.

Wouldn't be against signing him at all

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:29 pm  

I wish him all the best, he has been a good player/servant for the club. Hope he gets a good deal in the NRL before he retires.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:15 am  

He's been a great signing, and player for us, and at his vest has been a joy to watch.it's a shame he couldn't have signed off with one last great season, but the good moments far outweigh the bad.

As for a replacement, I think his signing has already been announced.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:13 am  

If thats the plan I hope someone at the club has spoken to Lolohea about being shifted into a position he has never played in first grade to make room for a kid who hasn't played a single game in first grade. Makes all kinds of sense. Not.

The plan should be to start with Lolohea at 1 or 6. Its up to competition then to decide who ends up where. If we want a centre, sign one. If anything the last season or so has shown its that playing players out of position because they 'can do a job' in key roles is a recipe for mediocrity. As is having no competition.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:23 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

If thats the plan I hope someone at the club has spoken to Lolohea about being shifted into a position he has never played in first grade to make room for a kid who hasn't played a single game in first grade. Makes all kinds of sense. Not.

The plan should be to start with Lolohea at 1 or 6. Its up to competition then to decide who ends up where. If we want a centre, sign one. If anything the last season or so has shown its that playing players out of position because they 'can do a job' in key roles is a recipe for mediocrity. As is having no competition.

Completely agree - the kid from Cas is completely untried - why do people think he will be a starter next season? I thought we had signed a half back - the fact that him and Myler are virtual identical players in style seems a bit odd but signing quality half backs is difficult when you are Leeds.

Re: OUT 2019 | Joel Moon - Unattached : Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:13 am  

I think a few people have suggested he maybe a starter because Phil Caplin who is very well connected at Leeds pretty much said that’s how they will start next year. Not something I agree with but Phil Caplin is rarely wrong when it comes to Leeds and what he deems certain of to publicly say on the radio.