Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:44 pm  

DaveO wrote:

He is rubbish. How he got selected for England I will never know.

Did his subsequent performances not give you any hints? He had a blinder against Australia

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:47 pm  

Blimey. The Scrooge wannabes are out in force already & it's still 2 weeks to gluttony. Let alone 2 months to the season start. If this time next year we're looking forward to playing Barrow & Whitehaven then I'll concede being a happy-clapper isn't all it's made out to be, but FFS you lot, lighten up.

[DaveO]

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:54 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Did his subsequent performances not give you any hints? He had a blinder against Australia

Do the more numerous poor performances he served up for Wigan not give you any hints? Or are we about to start rewriting history?

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:06 pm  

DaveO I honestly think you would moan if we signed jesus, citing him having 3 days off with injury Though we do have a bad track record with signing injured players that doesn't mean new wigan policy should be to sign only new players with no bruises.

There may be a few clubs in SL with a better centre than Gells or Sarge but not many. I don't think there is a SL club with 3 centre options better than gilly, gells and sarge. The whole of the Wigan club owes a big season to the fans for sticking with them through the past 2 years. We also owe them some patience considering previous success in spite of ridiculous runs of bad luck with regards to injuries, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that they really do but their bodies on the line, especially considering how many must have gone beyond usually pain barriers due to the people we were missing.

Wigan may have played a safe option here, if Gells is 50/50 and then sarge signs elsewhere then we are left with 1 starting centre and a prospect. If the past 2 years have taught us anything is the importance of strength in depth. There may be many squads who can match us 13v13 but I don't think anybody can match us for a full squad.

I'm ok with wigan playing it safe with signings so long as we see something more on the pitch.

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:11 pm  

he is terrible

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:17 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Do the more numerous poor performances he served up for Wigan not give you any hints? Or are we about to start rewriting history?

Which particular ones do you recall?
Didn't Sarginson replace Mead at the Titans?

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:52 pm  

hatty wrote:

He was garbage and still is garbage, we couldn't wait to off load him when the NRL came sniffing around and the supporters were glad to see him go. If you call putting a kick through for the winger to score as lighting up a grand final then yes lets credit him for that however his constant errors and total lack of creativity in games throughout his tenure with Wigan would indicate that one swallow definitely doesn't make a summer.
There has been some garbage playing for England over the years, why do you think we are only 3rd ranked in the world.

His Grand Final wasn’t just one kick to the corner though was it? He was sensational that night in all aspects of his play.

Let’s not judge him on one good game though. He has some limitations of course but he also has a lot of strengths. I can’t think off too many realistic options who we could bring in that could cover fullback, wing, centre and stand off as well as Sarginson could.

Does he fill me with excitement as a first choice centre? Probably not but as a utility option, I think it’s a cracking piece of business.

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:00 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Did his subsequent performances not give you any hints? He had a blinder against Australia

He was playing the centre role to perfection at that point. He’d got that frustrating step back in to the defence and away from his winger out of his game and he’d developed a cracking flick pass. After that season though he was shifted around a little and again developed those bad habits. He’s best at fullback for me but I’ve always fancied him more as a right centre (which is where you’d guess he’ll play going forward) because that natural step to his right will bring his winger in to play more often over on that side.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Gelling going forward. If he goes then clearly Sarginson has been signed to replace him.

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:10 pm  

If he has been signed on similar terms as he was on in 2014, and if no fee has been paid for his services then it will be a reasonable bit of business.

If Tony Gelling leaves, it should be in exchange for a transfer fee.

Re: Sarginson Returns : Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:13 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Which particular ones do you recall?
Didn't Sarginson replace Mead at the Titans?

mead went on to bigger and better hardly in the same league sarge