Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:42 pm  

I can see where you're coming from but you've got a flotilla of it's but's and maybe's in that post.

I take huge issue with your assessment that we had the best squad, and I'm no NRL apologist.

I wouldn't have picked J. Tomkinks but Whitehead has been a defensive liability and penalty incurrer his whole career. We're not nineteen seventies Association Football Brazil where you score four, we'll score five.

We've lost the last two games through lacking the extra five per cent of execution and game mentality.

We created more chances than Australia and New Zealand but failed to convert, we allowed them to score off less meaningful sets in our half.

We had a game plan and that must have come from McNamara, when we stuck to it we did OK, once the games got messy we strayed and got burned.

I can't see a better option at the moment, we were better in this tournament than last year (and I went to a lot of WC games) so why change for the sake of change?

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:28 pm  

Sandra The Terrorist wrote:

I can see where you're coming from but you've got a flotilla of it's but's and maybe's in that post.

I take huge issue with your assessment that we had the best squad, and I'm no NRL apologist.

I wouldn't have picked J. Tomkinks but Whitehead has been a defensive liability and penalty incurrer his whole career. We're not nineteen seventies Association Football Brazil where you score four, we'll score five.

We've lost the last two games through lacking the extra five per cent of execution and game mentality.

We created more chances than Australia and New Zealand but failed to convert, we allowed them to score off less meaningful sets in our half.

We had a game plan and that must have come from McNamara, when we stuck to it we did OK, once the games got messy we strayed and got burned.

I can't see a better option at the moment, we were better in this tournament than last year (and I went to a lot of WC games) so why change for the sake of change?

Fair play,we agree on some and not on others,at least we have genuine opinions,but I do think with the players aussie had missing,they were there for the taking and we missed a trick.

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:49 pm  

Who would you all replace him with ?

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:33 am  

Perhaps if he hadn't played for Hull, there would be a little more understanding of how finer lines can change a competition. Award the Ryan Hall try and we'd have beaten the Aussies (job done), had Gareth Widdops kicks gone the right side of the post and we'd be in the final unbeaten. Fine lines, and you want to beT up on a coach who at least has made us competitive, at the other side of the planet, missing our and the worlds best player, not to mention James Roby, who in conjunction with Daryl Clark I think would have given us that little bit more to change the impetuous of the two main games.

Sorry but those blinkers are making you look foolish, we have come as close as we have for many a year, and you want to heap this all on an ex-Hull FC player, get a fooking grip. Love him or hate him, Steve Macnamara has got us as close to beating the Aussies and Kiwis on their own muck for many a year, a defeat under such fine lines cannot be placed solely on the coach, sometimes dumb plays from those players on the park are the singular reason why we came so close but no cigar.

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:56 am  

Wytchfynder General wrote:

Perhaps if he hadn't played for Hull, there would be a little more understanding of how finer lines can change a competition. Award the Ryan Hall try and we'd have beaten the Aussies (job done), had Gareth Widdops kicks gone the right side of the post and we'd be in the final unbeaten. Fine lines, and you want to beT up on a coach who at least has made us competitive, at the other side of the planet, missing our and the worlds best player, not to mention James Roby, who in conjunction with Daryl Clark I think would have given us that little bit more to change the impetuous of the two main games.

Sorry but those blinkers are making you look foolish, we have come as close as we have for many a year, and you want to heap this all on an ex-Hull FC player, get a fooking grip. Love him or hate him, Steve Macnamara has got us as close to beating the Aussies and Kiwis on their own muck for many a year, a defeat under such fine lines cannot be placed solely on the coach, sometimes dumb plays from those players on the park are the singular reason why we came so close but no cigar.

If you think I am wanting him replaced because he played for FC many years ago I despair. You must be projecting your attitudes onto me. If this, if that. The Aussies were far more depleted than we were and all teams can point to things that did not go their way in a match. The fact remains as a coach he is a failure both at the Bulls and with England. In the end the only thing that matters is the result. Who said that the result is placed solely on the coach? Obviously the players played their part in the defeats. The coach however takes ultimate responsibility for results. He has had no success so far, how long do you propose giving him?

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:59 am  

We lost yesterday and will continue to do so because we have a lack of quality at half back. Smith is a steady player who will direct a team around and look good in a good team but he lacks a spark of creativity that a Johnson or Thurston has.
For what its worth I don't think Brough would have done much better, he has a bit of flair but lacks the brains and organisation (and temperament) to make it at the top level. Hopefully we'll see a British 7 come through although the shoots arem't looking too green, Myler has never kicked on, Sneyd is probably the only one who may but time will tell.
I'd leave Mc in charge, we did ok and who else is there and more importantly who would take it?

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:24 pm  

Most fans want him to stay in the England role so he doesn't end up coaching their club !!!

Club first and all that

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:35 pm  

Wytchfynder General wrote:

Perhaps if he hadn't played for Hull, there would be a little more understanding of how finer lines can change a competition. Award the Ryan Hall try and we'd have beaten the Aussies (job done), had Gareth Widdops kicks gone the right side of the post and we'd be in the final unbeaten. Fine lines, and you want to beT up on a coach who at least has made us competitive, at the other side of the planet, missing our and the worlds best player, not to mention James Roby, who in conjunction with Daryl Clark I think would have given us that little bit more to change the impetuous of the two main games.

Sorry but those blinkers are making you look foolish, we have come as close as we have for many a year, and you want to heap this all on an ex-Hull FC player, get a fooking grip. Love him or hate him, Steve Macnamara has got us as close to beating the Aussies and Kiwis on their own muck for many a year, a defeat under such fine lines cannot be placed solely on the coach, sometimes dumb plays from those players on the park are the singular reason why we came so close but no cigar.

If you think I want him replaced because he played for hull,you really are need help.I was saying I felt danny brough selected,who did he play for,none other than hull fc.I think that flattens your argument,I should ring the samaritans before they ring you.
Dont you get it we were the best team in the comp and didnt qualify,the aussies had the weakest squad they have had for years.

Re: Time for McNamara to go. : Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:46 pm  

Legends and Icons wrote:

Who would you all replace him with ?

Noble or kear,would be far more tactically aware,mcnamara Imo cannot get the best out the players he has,whether it be at bradford or england.
As I say we had the best squad in the comp Imo,better than the aussies,yet they qualified and we didnt.