Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:21 pm  

I would have personally preferred The Dons to have used the "Significant Cost" to sign our own players, rather than paying Hull FC. If they are our players they train with the squad every single week and get used to the players around them and gel as a side.

I do have a sneaky suspicion that some or part of this fee will have been the transfer fee we supposedly received for Liam Harris.

If Hull FC have another injury crisis I cannot see them sending us players at the expense of their own results, the deal will be weighted in our East Yorkshire Taskmasters favour.

Dual Reg will be the end of DRLFC.

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:30 pm  

SteveRoebuck wrote:

I would have personally preferred The Dons to have used the "Significant Cost" to sign our own players, rather than paying Hull FC. If they are our players they train with the squad every single week and get used to the players around them and gel as a side.

I do have a sneaky suspicion that some or part of this fee will have been the transfer fee we supposedly received for Liam Harris.

If Hull FC have another injury crisis I cannot see them sending us players at the expense of their own results, the deal will be weighted in out East Yorkshire Taskmasters favour.

Dual Reg will be the end of DRLFC.

I agree that in a perfect world we should be investing in players of our own but it is difficult to get the better quality players (who may be dropping down from Super League) to come to a League One club. They would rather play in the Championship, even if offered the same pay. Hence why we probably lost out to Halifax and Leigh.

Hull had their fingers burnt last season with their 'squad size' and along with the fact they planned on having a reserve team, they're not short on depth this time around. There should be plenty of players available to come to Donny.

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:34 pm  

We will wait and see DM, other teams in the Championship don't seem to have an issue recruiting, neither did York, Bradford last year or Toronto in the previous year, if we are a "cash rich" club surely the money should have been spent on a sustainable team rather than short team fixes with borrowing players from SL.

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:35 pm  

So basically we’re paying Hull to ensure we have access to 5 DR players each week and if 1 gets injured they send us another... isn’t that what’s ment to happen anyway ?? wouldn’t it just be better to just sign our own players... as soon as Hull get injuries the better DR players will be recalled for their team and were left with ones that are no better than what we have, the same as last season.... unless we’re going to have for example Maloudi, Litten, Harris and C Scott available every week then it’s a waste of time and money.

[Jemmo]

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:38 pm  

We're going to have to see what this means in the real world I guess.

A positive thing in there is that the club intend to have 21/22 players signed before the start of the season. I am guessing Dixon will be one of them following his trial appearances

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:44 pm  

Returning Don wrote:

So basically we’re paying Hull to ensure we have access to 5 DR players each week and if 1 gets injured they send us another... isn’t that what’s ment to happen anyway ?? wouldn’t it just be better to just sign our own players... as soon as Hull get injuries the better DR players will be recalled for their team and were left with ones that are no better than what we have, the same as last season.... unless we’re going to have for example Maloudi, Litten, Harris and C Scott available every week then it’s a waste of time and money.

Totally agree , we need quality week in week out from Hull as our own short comings have been highlighted over the last two weekends.

For me we need a big aggressive prop who can do long minutes , with the rule changes for 2019 the days of rotating props every twenty minutes will be much fewer than in previous years.
We also lack creativity and the likes of Miloudi would go a long way to helping us challange the top sides.

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:45 pm  

SteveRoebuck wrote:

We will wait and see DM, other teams in the Championship don't seem to have an issue recruiting, neither did York, Bradford last year or Toronto in the previous year, if we are a "cash rich" club surely the money should have been spent on a sustainable team rather than short team fixes with borrowing players from SL.

Bradford and Toronto were probably exceptions, Steve. York, to their great credit, did extremely well.

The one big benefit that I see in the arrangement is that we will definitely have access to five good quality players in every game, and that must come with Hull's blessing. I felt we went with our begging bowl in the past. At least we've moved things onto a more equal footing now.

Had we had five players from Hull in our squad last season when we played Workington (instead of none), there's a fair chance we would have won; had we lost we might have won the extra play-off game against the Championship side.

A few more signings of our own won't go amiss but this arrangement means that the DR/Loan system with Hull has the best possible chance of working. The old system from last year was clearly broken and needed fixing.

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:55 pm  

Keith Lard's Dog wrote:

Totally agree , we need quality week in week out from Hull as our own short comings have been highlighted over the last two weekends.

For me we need a big aggressive prop who can do long minutes , with the rule changes for 2019 the days of rotating props every twenty minutes will be much fewer than in previous years.
We also lack creativity and the likes of Miloudi would go a long way to helping us challange the top sides.

I thought that we'd got a better relationship with Hull in the past than we actually had. Their willingness to help out was found lacking when we needed them most. At least we've got a deal that should stop us being in a bad place at the end of this season, or at any time during it too.

Until we see which types of players will be coming, it's hard to draw any further conclusions at this stage.

I agree with KLD, a big prop and Mr Miloudi would be a good start.

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:01 pm  

I don't think we have fixed anything it seems on the surface like we have paid Hull to honour the dual registration agreement we already had in place, and I still maintain the "expense" of this arrangement is nothing more than wooden dollars to cover the money we never got from Hull for Liam Harris (if there ever was a transfer fee or if he really ever was 100% our player.).

I would say that Workington, Oldham and Gateshead have strengthened better than us in the offseason, and I cannot see there budgets being massively greater than ours, if at all.

We will have to see but as the "majority" of our coaches income will come from Hull FC, is he going to knowingly sabotage there chances to help little old Doncaster?

Re: Fans Panel Meeting Thursday 10th January 2019 : Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:13 pm  

Returning Don wrote:

So basically we’re paying Hull to ensure we have access to 5 DR players each week and if 1 gets injured they send us another... isn’t that what’s ment to happen anyway ?? wouldn’t it just be better to just sign our own players... as soon as Hull get injuries the better DR players will be recalled for their team and were left with ones that are no better than what we have, the same as last season.... unless we’re going to have for example Maloudi, Litten, Harris and C Scott available every week then it’s a waste of time and money.

I thought the same as you. You'd have thought the 'old arrangement' would have provided up to 5 players each week. It clearly didn't and a better arrangement was needed.

There are 32 players (with squad numbers) in the Hull squad. Here are the ones outside the 1 to 17:

19 Matongo, 20 Fash, 21 Manu, 22 Lane, 23 Paea, 24 Logan, 25 Langtree, 26 Bienek, 27 Miloudi, 28 Litten, 29 Nzoungou, 30 Washbrook, 31 Harris, and 32 Cameron Scott.

We might get three of those and two of the younger kids? We don't really know who might be coming but there's a lot of decent talent in there.