Thetalentboy wrote:

"Nearly at full strength"

what a forward in the centres,

a youngster at half back

No grace, Dodds, hopoate, amor

Sick of our fans constantly rolling out excuses season after season no wonder we've never won a grand final with that mentality

Have a look at the Rugby League Project site.

Sione Mata'utia Positions.

Fullback 4
Wing 10
Centre 54
Halfback 1
Second Row 54
Lock 5
Bench 20

Before you spout nonsense do some research.

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

Have a look at the Rugby League Project site.

Sione Mata'utia Positions.

Fullback 4
Wing 10
Centre 54
Halfback 1
Second Row 54
Lock 5
Bench 20

Before you spout nonsense do some research.

Where's he played for saints last 2 or 3 years 2nd row

Some players move position later in their career

Aaron Murphy started a winger ended up 2nd row

You know clutching at straws comes to mind when you have to search all that

He's a 2nd row not a centre

Saints at full strength he doesn't get a look in at centre

Thetalentboy wrote:

"Nearly at full strength" what a forward in the centres, a youngster at half back

No grace, Dodds, hopoate, amor

Sick of our fans constantly rolling out excuses season after season no wonder we've never won a grand final with that mentality

You name 4 missing there well we had cator andre and cam Scott missing through injuries who would have been in our 17 and this saints side have played together consistently for a number of years so know each others game inside out. Yes its dissapointing to lose but we to appreciate this is a building season hopefully the likes of Taylor shaul , Houghton Bowden won't be anywhere need the starting 17 next season

Thetalentboy wrote:

Where's he played for saints last 2 or 3 years 2nd row

Some players move position later in their career

Aaron Murphy started a winger ended up 2nd row

You know clutching at straws comes to mind when you have to search all that

He's a 2nd row not a centre

Saints at full strength he doesn't get a look in at centre

He's played enough games at centre to be familiar with that position. Using Murphy is a very poor example.

They weren't at full strength and neither where we. Evans, Scott, McNamara, Savelio and Cator out.

We had a hooker playing at scrum half which you seem to have overlooked.

We are not as good as Saints. That's a fact I'm afraid. Saints have won SL for the last 3 years. I don't like losing but I'm being realistic.

Windy winger wrote:

Need to be more Clinical when playing the top teams , bombed way to many chances first half and even 2 at the start of the second . What shaul offers I don’t know , even out of position on the wing , he offers nothing no more , he’s just a number instead of playing with 12 men . Taylor was knackered from the beginning , his fitness is shocking and embarrassing for a professional athlete, he was just walking the ball in after the first few minutes. Once hodgson gets his own team , hopefully next season we’ll be challenging. Not a million miles away at the minute .

Why Satae is not starting with Ligi Sao ill never know.
This is Hodgsons team.Brought in Gale and Reynolds and this area as well as full back is our weak link.
Hodgson still making too many mistakes with team selection.

hull2524 wrote:

It's funny how some twist things to fit there agenda. Well let's do that. Say am a saints fan. Going into last nights game . We should really be hammering hull. Full back who over rated and show pony. Winger who's a full back. Young centre who's just started playing in that position. Other winger out most of last season just finding his feet. Stand off who's the worst overseas signing ever. Hooker playing scrum half. Prop hardly played in 2 years. Hooker who most want rid off years ago. Bench of Griffin who really shouldn't be near any team. JJ same. If we can't put 50 on this lot the coach needs sacking. Funny aint it

most of it is true though

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

He's played enough games at centre to be familiar with that position. Using Murphy is a very poor example.

They weren't at full strength and neither where we. Evans, Scott, McNamara, Savelio and Cator out.

We had a hooker playing at scrum half which you seem to have overlooked.

We are not as good as Saints. That's a fact I'm afraid. Saints have won SL for the last 3 years. I don't like losing but I'm being realistic.

clutching at straws there.
hardly think Scott or McNamara would be in our full strength team

bonaire wrote:

Why Satae is not starting with Ligi Sao ill never know.
This is Hodgsons team.Brought in Gale and Reynolds and this area as well as full back is our weak link.
Hodgson still making too many mistakes with team selection.

Because if you haven't noticed satae looks knackered after 10 minutes when he starts games seems much better when he is being brought on against player's that are slightly fatigued.
BH is still making mistakes which is concerning the biggest one for me is he identified the problem we have a dummy half with speed and passing got Joey in then decides to then play him out of position so we are still having the same problems and it's having a knock on effect on joey who isn't really doing much in the halves

bonaire wrote:

clutching at straws there.
hardly think Scott or McNamara would be in our full strength team

Talentboy

No grace, Dodds, hopoate, amor

and Amor would start in a Saints full strength 17?