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Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:31 am  
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Listening to paul rowley on sky
He’s exactly the type of coach we need.
Man management skills , knowledge of the game too. His explanations of how teams set up etc absolute spot on.
Hodgson is a clever rugby man but I think his weakness is his man management.
As a player he’s been there done it got the t shirt. Half the battle is getting the players to buy into his game plan
Danny Orr is a quiet achiever there too, you've only got to look at how Powell has struggled without him. He announced he is leaving Salford at the end of this season but I've not seen anything as to where he is going.
If Hodgson is here next season we need a fresh voice in and around training hopefully at the expense of Purtill.
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Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:35 am  
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Salford do particularly well on the recruitment front season after season, the likes of Croft, Hastings, Lafai etc, they're good at finding players that want to prove a point
Ian Blease deserves a ton of credit for that as their CEO, Hasting & Croft have spoken very highly of him and the way he sells the club. The fact James Clarke takes care of our signings & retentions is just baffling to me.
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Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:19 am  
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Feels like the whole culture of the squad and performance staff is rotten at Hull. The owner always backs them financially, the fan base is passionate and desperate for something to cheer for and they always have a talented squad. But the team does not deal with adversity well at all and haven't for a few years. When it starts to go wrong the wheels really fall off and I've lost count of the number of heavy defeats (and subsequent comments from the coach about attitude).

I do think Hull should give themselves a fresh start with a new coach but I don't think your problem is going to be solved with tactical or technical knowledge. The main thing for me would be to instill some real motivation, work ethic and resilience into the core of the group. Its just whether the players at Hull have the desire to really buy into a philosophy, commit to it and try and build something. If they don't then I think the club either needs a coach who can change those mindsets or begin a more ruthless overhaul of the squad to bring in players with a better attitude.
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:36 am  
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Feels like the whole culture of the squad and performance staff is rotten at Hull. The owner always backs them financially, the fan base is passionate and desperate for something to cheer for and they always have a talented squad. But the team does not deal with adversity well at all and haven't for a few years. When it starts to go wrong the wheels really fall off and I've lost count of the number of heavy defeats (and subsequent comments from the coach about attitude).

I do think Hull should give themselves a fresh start with a new coach but I don't think your problem is going to be solved with tactical or technical knowledge. The main thing for me would be to instill some real motivation, work ethic and resilience into the core of the group. Its just whether the players at Hull have the desire to really buy into a philosophy, commit to it and try and build something. If they don't then I think the club either needs a coach who can change those mindsets or begin a more ruthless overhaul of the squad to bring in players with a better attitude.

Seems to me that you’re outside looking in. There’s a ruthless rebuild going on now and hopefully when the dead woods been chopped away, we’ll see the green shoots of regrowth. I’m sure there’s an excellent coach in Hodgson somewhere but the toxic culture amongst some of our so called players just divides everyone.
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:55 am  
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Seems to me that you’re outside looking in. There’s a ruthless rebuild going on now and hopefully when the dead woods been chopped away, we’ll see the green shoots of regrowth. I’m sure there’s an excellent coach in Hodgson somewhere but the toxic culture amongst some of our so called players just divides everyone.


Well practically everyone on here is on the outside looking in but you seem to be agreeing with the main point I made anyhow. Maybe Hodgson is capable of the rebuild himself - difficult to say.
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:47 pm  
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For the record, Win % since 2000.

Research taken from RL project together with Wiki so view with extreme caution :lol:

COYH is our the stats man and I'm sure if he can be bothered I'd like him to rectify the many errors.

55% McRae

56% Kear

56% Sharp

46% Agar

53% Gentle

50% Radford

57% Last

43% Hodgson

Lies, damm lies and statistics??

Maybe unfair but interesting nevertheless.
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:58 pm  
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:
For the record, Win % since 2000.

Research taken from RL project together with Wiki so view with extreme caution :lol:

COYH is our the stats man and I'm sure if he can be bothered I'd like him to rectify the many errors.

55% McRae

56% Kear

56% Sharp

46% Agar

53% Gentle

50% Radford

57% Last

43% Hodgson

Lies, damm lies and statistics??

Maybe unfair but interesting nevertheless.


I'd be interested in the first two years, particularly Radford?
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:06 pm  
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I'd be interested in the first two years, particularly Radford?



first season in charge, missed the play offs....finished 10th irrc
2nd season....made the top 8....lost all 7 games in those matches

3rd season, 2016....ropey start then it clicked until he allowed the players to p!55 it up after wembley and scraped through the next 7 games until losing to Wigan in the play off semi final

so Hodgson gets ti easter next season in my eyes as he is having to rebulid like radford did (without Motu Tony doing the deals)
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:06 pm  
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I'd be interested in the first two years, particularly Radford?


SL games only

Radford
2014 won 10/27 - 37%
2015 won 12/30 - 40%

Hodgson
2021 won 8/25 - 32%
2022 won 10/23 (so far) - 43ish%
Re: Hodgson Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:36 pm  
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The accuracy of these stats are questionable but in my opinion what cannot be disputed is sacking Sharp was a major blunder that set us back years.
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