Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:13 pm  

Satae is gonna get burnt out at this rate.

Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:15 pm  

His Bobness wrote:

All those repeat sets in the first half but there was nothing other than bish bash and then give it to Sneyd for a diagonal kick. I thought Radford had copyright on those tactics but apparently not..

I agree that Connor might have made a big difference. He has individual brilliance which can't be coached and can turn a game. Without him Sneyd doesn't seem half as effective. Good example the brilliant 40/20 in the second half. Might as well have not bothered because the excellent opportunity quickly and deflatingly petered out into nothing.

Wynne was poor and will certainly cop a ban for his variation on a hand off - the elbow off. Reynolds will get a ban for his head butt although he was quite anonymous tonight as he has been all season so you won't miss him.

Houghton and Johnstone are possibly the worst No. 9 options in Super League. You saw how much better the Leeds duo were and I'll add that Parcell and Litten have been great for Rovers. In the modern game you need quality at No. 9.

Mahe Fonua was a liability and proof of the theory that it's never as good second time around. He'll be enjoying his marquee money though.

Those big strong forwards looked absolutely crackered in the second half but the Leeds middles who had defended so well in the first half just got stronger and stronger.

Nobody on here has given any credit to Leeds and that is quite wrong. They are shoe ins for the play offs it's just a matter of which of the Hull clubs drop out of the 6 to make way for them.

It may well be Rovers....and it might not be.......but if it's you lot what a waste of the biggest spend in the history of your club.

Hard to disagree with that.

But its important to note the recruitment errors are from 2 years ago under Radford, apart from Reynolds Hodgson hasn't brought anyone in. Pearson kept faith with Radford too long and we are still paying for that.

Some questions to be asked about Hodgson's tactics and in particular his use of the bench however. Expected to at least see a few new plays by now.

Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:21 pm  

Leeds weren’t great at all, but we made them look good. Luckily they bombed a couple of tries as well.
Was a step back tonight. Back to being camped on the opposition 25 and creating nothing.
Game plan currently is give it to Satae.
We just threw inaccurate passes down one side, then back across again. No one hit a gap at speed.
Love my club, but really struggling at the moment to get enthusiastic about the game in general.

Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:32 pm  

my observations that may have been posted

1. Pivots to Centre’s isn’t working - that’s where your magic is and we have none
2. Fonua is so unfit and the whole back room staff need a bollocking for allowing this, along with the player himself. He’s 15kg over weight easily
3. Connor Wynne - watch the play from 50-53 mins, for a 20 year old how can you be absolutely flooked just 11 mins into a 2nd half. watch how he’s hanging on in D and is basically out of it and then at 53 mins he is still blowing at the ply the ball - i just couldn’t believe it
4. Connor is our 6 and the sooner BH realises this the better for when he’s back
5. Jamie Shaul can’t defend so we have both a hooker and full back issue for me as Connor isn’t anywhere near fast enough for FB. The try v England shows that
6. time for a new hooker
7. attack needs a new philosophy

anyways there’s my thoughts

Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:42 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

I thought Reynolds did ok tonight, caused a few problems with his running game, on his own though, Wynne looks like Shaul, good running game, but doesn't have the link up play like other FB'S.

Wynne has just turned 20 and has how many starts at FB at SL level, less than a dozen over 2.5 seasons, the kid is a rookie?

Comparing him to other FB at this point in his career is somewhat unfair don't you think, he might not have what Connor has in his game, but like Shaul he has stuff in his locker than Connor doesn't.
A few years of average to poor coaching through your formative years and being out the team more than you're in isn't going to change that overnight.

Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:52 pm  

Tarquin Fuego wrote:

my observations that may have been posted

1. Pivots to Centre’s isn’t working - that’s where your magic is and we have none
2. Fonua is so unfit and the whole back room staff need a bollocking for allowing this, along with the player himself. He’s 15kg over weight easily
3. Connor Wynne - watch the play from 50-53 mins, for a 20 year old how can you be absolutely flooked just 11 mins into a 2nd half. watch how he’s hanging on in D and is basically out of it and then at 53 mins he is still blowing at the ply the ball - i just couldn’t believe it
4. Connor is our 6 and the sooner BH realises this the better for when he’s back
5. Jamie Shaul can’t defend so we have both a hooker and full back issue for me as Connor isn’t anywhere near fast enough for FB. The try v England shows that
6. time for a new hooker
7. attack needs a new philosophy

anyways there’s my thoughts

Agree with just about everything you say but what makes you think Shaul can't defend? Have you not watched him make one on one tackles at FB? Why do you want a tackling based dummy half, isn't that what we pay our forwards to do when defending, to do the grunt work in defence? Just because Houghtin has been flogged to the point he's ineffective in attack (and diminishes his defence also) doesn't mean we should continue doing that.

Re: Leeds home : Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:58 pm  

Houghton has been flogged to death over the last few years, and it’s catching up with him now.

[Chris71]

Re: Leeds home : Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:08 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Houghton has been flogged to death over the last few years, and it’s catching up with him now.

I don’t think it’s catching up with him I’d say it’s already caught up with him and in fairness to Andy Last he managed to get something out of Houghton & Johnstone when he started with JJ and spelled them both. Right now we get nothing from either of them.

Re: Leeds home : Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:12 am  

Tarquin Fuego wrote:

my observations that may have been posted

1. Pivots to Centre’s isn’t working - that’s where your magic is and we have none
2. Fonua is so unfit and the whole back room staff need a bollocking for allowing this, along with the player himself. He’s 15kg over weight easily
3. Connor Wynne - watch the play from 50-53 mins, for a 20 year old how can you be absolutely flooked just 11 mins into a 2nd half. watch how he’s hanging on in D and is basically out of it and then at 53 mins he is still blowing at the ply the ball - i just couldn’t believe it
4. Connor is our 6 and the sooner BH realises this the better for when he’s back
5. Jamie Shaul can’t defend so we have both a hooker and full back issue for me as Connor isn’t anywhere near fast enough for FB. The try v England shows that
6. time for a new hooker
7. attack needs a new philosophy

anyways there’s my thoughts

And let’s not forget discipline. Too many of our players are picking up suspensions for stupid altercations.

We could have really done with Savelio tonight, but he is sat in the stands for three games for getting personal with Jones, that provides zero benefit to the club.

Then Josh Reynolds getting himself sin binned and potentially copping a ban for an stupid coming together after Leeds have scored. Why? Did he think his actions would get the try over-ruled?

With several key players out injured, these incidents really hurt the team. Injuries are accidental. I appreciate it’s a physical sport, but making yourself unavailable due to a self inflicted ban is as bad as being a poor organiser, rushing out of the line, missing a tackle, being flogged to death and having a poor kicking game.

Re: Leeds home : Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:13 am  

What was the crowd last night?