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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:39 pm  
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:44 pm  
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3473430866022563&id=146476755384674

So it's all about making money!

Yes, it's business, if we owned our ground we would do the same.
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:50 pm  
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Yes, it's business, if we owned our ground we would do the same.




so you dont think this is all bull and sky are behind it to cover their own costs?

dont see premiership/championship football teams being made to do the same!
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:57 pm  
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So it's all about making money!


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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:11 pm  
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so you dont think this is all bull and sky are behind it to cover their own costs?

dont see premiership/championship football teams being made to do the same!

what are they being made to do?
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:15 am  
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catalans pushing for home games now....certainly puts a unfair balance on the format if they get them.....SL need to replace the word 'neutral' because it definitely wont be if this happens

there will be no fans so of course it will be 'neutral', what advantage do you expect for the 'home' teams in most games?
Yes travelling to France is a little bit more than travelling than for UK based games but it's not that much of a hardship is it, done properly this doesn't have any effect on match preparation does it? Not all teams are clearly going to play at their home ground , in fact you could potentially have all teams not playing at their home venue and always having 'away' teams.

Of course there should be balance, personally I think all matches should be played at their original venues unless there is a significant cost reduction across the board that can be fed back to those teams travelling the furthest, but I don't see that happening. So what is the reasoning behind matches played at a smaller number of venues instead of simply playing the games at the correct venue per the fixture list?

Aside from the non science based lunacy of playing matches without fans, games should have started ages ago given the risk of death FROM supposed C.19 as actual cause of death for under 40s (using NHS stats) is THREE times less than just the road casualty deaths in the 20-39 age groups (DfT figures for 2018)
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:20 am  
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there will be no fans so of course it will be 'neutral', what advantage do you expect for the 'home' teams in most games?
Yes travelling to France is a little bit more than travelling than for UK based games but it's not that much of a hardship is it, done properly this doesn't have any effect on match preparation does it? Not all teams are clearly going to play at their home ground , in fact you could potentially have all teams not playing at their home venue and always having 'away' teams.

Of course there should be balance, personally I think all matches should be played at their original venues unless there is a significant cost reduction across the board that can be fed back to those teams travelling the furthest, but I don't see that happening. So what is the reasoning behind matches played at a smaller number of venues instead of simply playing the games at the correct venue per the fixture list?

Aside from the non science based lunacy of playing matches without fans, games should have started ages ago given the risk of death FROM supposed C.19 as actual cause of death for under 40s (using NHS stats) is THREE times less than just the road casualty deaths in the 20-39 age groups (DfT figures for 2018)

'science based lunacy'? are you one of those that think Covid-19 hassuddenly got bored and packed up and gone home?
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:22 am  
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Aside from the non science based lunacy of playing matches without fans, games should have started ages ago given the risk of death FROM supposed C.19 as actual cause of death for under 40s (using NHS stats) is THREE times less than just the road casualty deaths in the 20-39 age groups (DfT figures for 2018)


Aside from the fact that amazingly some over 40s go to rugby league games deaths from RTAs are not infectious unlike Covid-19.
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:51 am  
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Aside from the fact that amazingly some over 40s go to rugby league games deaths from RTAs are not infectious unlike Covid-19.

you do have to wonder about the education system when someone uses the word 'supposed' in relation to a virus that has become endemic, has killed 540K, or at least paid a part in their deaths, a further 6.5M have recovered from it.
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Re: home games (behind closed doors)? : Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:07 am  
For me I don't see what the reasoning or justification is for neutral venues unless there are huge savings to be made from this. If clubs still have to pay rent/upkeep etc on their current grounds surely playing at a neutral ground isn't going to generate significant savings for clubs. I can only see it being an advantage and cost saving for SKY in terms of televising the matches, has that been part of the agreement with SKY regarding financial package etc.
For clubs whose grounds are chosen to be the 'Neutral' venue's, I feel they should not have any of their own games played at their home grounds. This is the only way you can fully level the playing field and call it neutral and remove any advantage.

4 venues from Salford/Saints/Warrington and Leeds/Wakefield/HKR using 2 from each group would have been the best option as the 4 venues. Huddersfield,Wigan if no football was being played would have been an option but its an added risk both covid wise and in terms of injury than can be caused due to heavy use of the playing surface.
That way every club faces the same circumstances and challenges of travelling and playing at 'neutral' ground.
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