Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:58 am  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

I THink youve missed the point. We resign aging players who we could see last season not having the impact they once had yet other teams sign these massive south sea islanders who can make a real impact.

Lazy recruitment

A lot has been said about backloaded contracts, plus Westerman was signed up and given another contract at the end of last season. It may be that we had to resign Mini and Sika because no ones available for their money? Salary cap governs recruitment, FC must have been up to cap, hence picking up cheap players, Radford made a comment about players being signed up on appearance money. Whatever the reasons, I don’t think it was lazy recruitment but more a case of needs must. I’m not a club apologist more a club realist, I don’t think Radford’s job is under threat, Pearson is hands on, I just hope they’ve got a plan in place that will keep us in the mix and not just fade away as we did in the 80’s and after 2006.

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:02 am  

Plus extensions for Kelly, Fash, Masi, Carlos, Bowden, Taylor, Connor, Lane, Talanoa, + Harris and a number of juniors.

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:47 am  

Has anybody hada look at the out of contract players for the end of this season. Some interesting names among them, the main one that caught my eye was Fifita from Wakefield who is probably exactly what we need currently. Others were Parcell , Golden, Mulally from Leeds, Hastings from Salford

Probably a lot more available but they are just the ones I’ve seen so far

[Chris71]

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:54 am  

Rocknrolla69er wrote:

Has anybody has a look at the out of contract players for the end of this season. Some interesting names among them, the main one that caught my eye was Fifita from Wakefield who is probably exactly what we need currently. Others were Parcell , Golden, Mulally from Leeds, Hastings from Salford

Probably a lot more available but they are just the one signing I’ve seen so far

Rumoured Leeds looking to offload Parcel, Cuthbertson, Mullally & Golding too if they can. Surprised re Parcel & Cuthbertson to be honest but Leeds seem to be in a similar situation as us due to poor recruitment and not replacing players with same standard and quality.

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:08 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Rumoured Leeds looking to offload Parcel, Cuthbertson, Mullally & Golding too if they can. Surprised re Parcel & Cuthbertson to be honest but Leeds seem to be in a similar situation as us due to poor recruitment and not replacing players with same standard and quality.

It sounds like Leeds would offload them this season, if we could work some cap space would you take Cuthbertson for the rest of the season?

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:12 pm  

I posted this on our Cas Vegas thread a few mins ago, didnt realise there as a " Our Forwards" thread, so maybe its better placed on here.

I don't think we were far off v Cas. The backs were well matched and their forwards probably just edged it. We still had several chances on their line but could not find away over, sometimes a little guile was needed when brute force was not working, though heaven knows Jake tried his best on that front.
If their forwards did edge it then they were really only up against Taylor and Westerman and a Danny tackling machine, so guess under those circumstances you could say it was a massive effort from Taylor and particularly Westy who did amazing considering he had to be ring rusty.

The rest of the pack can hang their heads for me, Litten apart. But oh how I wish Danny would just please please run at the line more, just to give their front markers something to think about.

Roby is a masterclass in that area, what will he do ? Run at the teeth ? run wide and straighten? simply pass, run past a dummy and then pass, kick over and chase ? kick long for territory ?
He has the defence thinking everytime. Because you never really know.
I just dont think Danny puts that same doubt in the oppostions mind. So they shape up for Danny pass option every time and usually they're spot on. His long kicking is quite good but its not an attacking threat in the last 3rd. Rant over.

We have to hope we take confidence into our next game and we build on our positives and make a real game of it, win or Lose.

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:39 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Rumoured Leeds looking to offload Parcel, Cuthbertson, Mullally & Golding too if they can. Surprised re Parcel & Cuthbertson to be honest but Leeds seem to be in a similar situation as us due to poor recruitment and not replacing players with same standard and quality.

Leeds employed a strict contract regards pay structure and recruitment from within their academy but that’s been found out recently with 3 yoyo seasons. They’ve had to go searching for players Furner wanted and splash the cash, hence having to offload, see if they break the cap????

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:40 pm  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

I'd say we really need to be a lot more clever when we have the ball. Getting bundled in to touch (Faraimo on a couple of occasions), Litten kicking in the first tackle after making a break. Just dumb play.

That said, if the TV camera's were not there, I reckon we win that game. Connors disallowed try for obstruction would not have been picked up. There would have squared it up and we had the wind in our sails at that point.

On a separate note, I really hope the RFL do something about this rule, it makes dummy runners pointless near the line, its supposed to be a physical contact sport FFS.

I don't understand why we have not got an absolute monster on our bench like others seem to have. Junior Moors at Cas, Pauli Pauli at Wakey...why are we not in the hunt for this style of player?

Wingers getting bundled over it’s part of their position some times they recess pass that should have gone back inside or it’s poor and in the process of catching it unbalanced them. As to Litten kicking on the first Shaul was crying out for it to happen. Unfortunately he kicked it to much to the right and was eventually easily tackled. If it had been straighter Shaul should have collected and who knows. It’s inventive play just unlucky. Our main problem is not invention but our forwards, and completion in the finals,at of the ball.

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:02 pm  

When we bundle someone into touch it's great defensive play, when we're bundled into touch it's dumb rugby.

Re: Our forwards : Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:00 pm  

Plum Bob wrote:

Wingers getting bundled over it’s part of their position some times they recess pass that should have gone back inside or it’s poor and in the process of catching it unbalanced them. As to Litten kicking on the first Shaul was crying out for it to happen. Unfortunately he kicked it to much to the right and was eventually easily tackled. If it had been straighter Shaul should have collected and who knows. It’s inventive play just unlucky. Our main problem is not invention but our forwards, and completion in the finals,at of the ball.

I would add stupid penalties we give away every match which seem to cost us dearly and mistakes like not playing the ball correctly or moving off the mark when playing the ball