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Re: Reserves
Post Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:31 pm
Posted by HFC Boy on Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:31 pm
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It should be mandatory along with all the other rules which clubs have to abide by - clubs who cop out
need to be hit financially, perhaps only receiving 80% of sky money until they get their @rses into gear
The other 20% going to junior development (or whatever)


Also reduce their overseas quota .
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Re: Reserves
Post Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:52 pm
Posted by Mild Rover on Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:52 pm
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HFC Boy wrote:
Also reduce their overseas quota .


And only 3 points for a try? :)

It’s not a rule or a requirement, so creating punishments for breaching it is... premature, shall we say?

If the clubs want to do it, they’ll do it. The version RBA outlines sounds like a sensible enough approach and not dissimilar to what we had about 10 years ago, continuing the back to the noughties theme of the league restructure.
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Re: Reserves
Post Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:53 am
Posted by Jake the Peg on Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:53 am
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Mild Rover wrote:
And only 3 points for a try? :)

It’s not a rule or a requirement, so creating punishments for breaching it is... premature, shall we say?

If the clubs want to do it, they’ll do it. The version RBA outlines sounds like a sensible enough approach and not dissimilar to what we had about 10 years ago, continuing the back to the noughties theme of the league restructure.


I agree. Instead put in incentives for doing it. Maybe allocating more cash from central funds or some kind of cap exemption or extension for those running it
Re: Reserves
Post Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:31 am
Posted by Mild Rover on Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:31 am
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Jake the Peg wrote:
I agree. Instead put in incentives for doing it. Maybe allocating more cash from central funds or some kind of cap exemption or extension for those running it


I agree that would be better. Although eany extra cash would have to come from somewhere, and if it isn’t from cutting other clubs’ share, it isn’t obvious where that’d be. And a cap exemption is only valuable to the wealthier clubs, meaning the reserves league would likely remain small, if we’re relying on that.

I think there’s almost an acknowledgement there that it isn’t worth it in of itself, if it needs incentivising or to be forced on clubs. With the SL clubs now seemingly taking leadership, while the RFL mainly just does the administrative stuff, who is there to cajole them to do it?
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Re: Reserves
Post Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:42 am
Posted by fosdyke99 on Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:42 am
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strange how in the bad old days of the 60s,70s and 80s before the sky big bucks ,when teams were struggling,every club had an a team and you were fined if you couldn't raise a side.
Re: Reserves
Post Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:31 pm
Posted by ccs on Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:31 pm
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FWIW...

HDM wrote:
The Black and Whites pledged their support for the concept again for next season a few months ago but only after private assurances that the league would be formal and include an extensive fixture list.
Re: Reserves
Post Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:39 pm
Posted by Riderofthepalehorse on Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:39 pm
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No matter how you dress it up, the reluctance of the majority to run a reserve grade, pretty much sums up our game, amateurish at best. Give it up Hull & Wakey, your flogging the proverbial dead horse.
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Post Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:12 am
Posted by Wilde 3 on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:12 am
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It will be in force for 2020, but the fact we have invested significantly in back room staff and a deeper squad to help to support the reserve side is unfortunate for us - when we could have put that money into a marquee player ourselves.

I saw a good suggestion yesterday about Wakefield and Hull being able to put their Reserve sides into League 1 for the year, whilst that league gets some consistency with the sides in it
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Post Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:41 pm
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I know that it is far from ideal but I wonder if Hull could arrange a series of Reserve friendlies against the likes of GB students, British Army, Police force, BARLA etc.

It would serve to keep players match fit and generate a fair bit of publicity and goodwill for your club. You may even unearth a prospect or 2.
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Post Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:40 pm
Posted by vastman on Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:40 pm
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I don't see how it is a farce or flogging a dead horse. Yes it's a farce as far as the game is concerned but from the perspective of our two clubs i don't agree.

I'm talking from a Wakefield perspective hear but I suspect it's the similar to yourselves.

Currently we don't have too much in the academy but we so have a glut of players getting beyond it who are still good enough to persist with. In terms of keeping those players active I don't see even a diminished reserve grade as any less useful that DR which I hate with a passion. Most of these players I'm on about are capable of playing a limited amount of SL where as few if any of our under 19's are. To me I'm far happier to see them training with the first team and being a part of it whilst and playing the odd game than being DR.

It's just my opinion but it gives us a certain depth we otherwise wouldn't have. Also it's a nice platform to explore trialist, something you simply cannot do with the under 19's and you never know what gems you might fine.

Over all I'm happier with what we have that Hetherington's ludicrous argument that Leeds Academy is there reserve - that Gary has worked only once in 25 years!
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