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Re: KR @ Magic Wed May 23, 2018 7:44 am  

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Problem is
You can Buy size
You can buy power
But you cant beat pace which is what Wigan,Saints,Leeds and Cas have in abdundance

Can you not buy pace then !
Re: KR @ Magic Wed May 23, 2018 8:57 am  

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Re: KR @ Magic Wed May 23, 2018 12:36 pm  
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Radders has a philosophy in his coaching, big bad & dominant, we play this way, his teams are molded this way, his recruiting is based on this, it’s a simple method, and after two successful Challenge Cup campaigns “yes yes two of them” we were undone in two Play off semis, both of them Wigan & Leeds nail biters, and with a little luck both winnable. We are in a mess at present with injuries, and of course the team makes errors and mistakes, all teams do, sorry bumpy, credit were it’s due, our young coach has done a super job for us all, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect this, and if people are so incensed by them, there is an option to ignore, come on you ull.

I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.

My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,

ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.
Re: KR @ Magic Wed May 23, 2018 12:45 pm  

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knockersbumpMKII wrote:
I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.

My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,

ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.


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There are more holes in your arguments than there are in this picture of a block of cheese.

These are arguments you regurgitate time and time again to suit your anti-Radford & anti-board agendas, and when pulled up on them or presented with facts, you don't respond, you simply bide you time to spout them again on another thread. It's about time the mods did the right thing & sent you packing, troll.
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Re: KR @ Magic Wed May 23, 2018 5:48 pm  
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:
I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.

My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,

ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.



As I have never engaged with you regarding our coach and his qualities, how could I offer any opinion of your praise, and good stuff, You are possibly mixing me up with another poster.

Let’s for arguments sake, give you the praise you desire, is this a Freudian method you use, cutting off your arm, but still wanting your thumbs.
Re: KR @ Magic Wed May 23, 2018 8:30 pm  
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DGM wrote:
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There are more holes in your arguments than there are in this picture of a block of cheese.

These are arguments you regurgitate time and time again to suit your anti-Radford & anti-board agendas, and when pulled up on them or presented with facts, you don't respond, you simply bide you time to spout them again on another thread. It's about time the mods did the right thing & sent you packing, troll.


I only count 23 holes in that block of cheese.
Re: KR @ Magic Thu May 24, 2018 8:53 pm  
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DGM wrote:
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There are more holes in your arguments than there are in this picture of a block of cheese.

These are arguments you regurgitate time and time again to suit your anti-Radford & anti-board agendas, and when pulled up on them or presented with facts, you don't respond, you simply bide you time to spout them again on another thread. It's about time the mods did the right thing & sent you packing, troll.

enlighten me as to the holes? Nothing I or indeed what plenty of others have said all season and indeed last season is untrue. But whatever, you like others can only throw insults and post childish images/imojis because you haven't got the capability of formulating a reasoned argument, more importantly because you haven't got anything other than vapid crud to spout.
Re: KR @ Magic Thu May 24, 2018 9:00 pm  

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knockersbumpMKII wrote:
enlighten me as to the holes? Nothing I or indeed what plenty of others have said all season and indeed last season is untrue. But whatever, you like others can only throw insults and post childish images/imojis because you haven't got the capability of formulating a reasoned argument, more importantly because you haven't got anything other than vapid crud to spout.


Aren't you on a warning for personal attacks? I think Standee got a permanent ban for it.
Re: KR @ Magic Fri May 25, 2018 5:34 am  

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knockersbumpMKII wrote:
enlighten me as to the holes? Nothing I or indeed what plenty of others have said all season and indeed last season is untrue. But whatever, you like others can only throw insults and post childish images/imojis because you haven't got the capability of formulating a reasoned argument, more importantly because you haven't got anything other than vapid crud to spout.


Don't let them get you down mate.
We are no longer challenging for silverware, or within reach of the top four.
Radford has achieved both, two years in a row.
Beyond your wildest dreams I'd have thought?
Be happy, don't worry.
Re: KR @ Magic Fri May 25, 2018 5:56 am  

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ComeOnYouUll wrote:
Aren't you on a warning for personal attacks? I think Standee got a permanent ban for it.


Poor old p.collinson.
The only poster on here that made the Lord Mayor of Letchworth sound bright. :lol:
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