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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 5:51 am  
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That is why Miloudi and Harris should play in the halves so we are not exposed out wide as we were by a team that would have being beaten by Fev/Toronto and Tolouse, Connor can shore up out wide with whoever is on the wing.

Yes we won but frankly it highlights so many problems with the coach and his inability to address the same issues that crop up time and time and time again no matter who plays.
There was a chance to play last week someone who had played in the halves and doing extremely well by all accounts, there was another chance today but again ignored which meant ridiculously we played with 12 men and a has been who did nothing all match except give a stupid pen away, bomb a try (natch) and make a handful of tackles, oh I think he made 6-7 metres on one run when he had space.

It's the failure to recognise that sending out a has been (in fact re-signing a has been or two) and not trusting to a youngster is definitely the wrong call, aside from injuries at the back end of 2014 when the season was over and the "million pounds in the stand" Warrington game Easter '16 it's been the staple of Radford's tenure.

We kept banging it down the middle and failed to get it out wide, by sheer weight of the fact KR were utter crud and our forwards were right on it, we had some success but if we'd have spread it wide we'd have had more success. So fixated with banging it down the middle we couldn't capitalise when they were down to 12 and were outflanked by 12 men :evil:

Connor produced a quality pass and a great individual run, aside from that he didn't really produce the goods (a lucky bounce off the crossbar doesn't count). He punted it too far downfield so they had an unchallenged catch too often, and it was too often the only play we had ...again!

Full strength we have one of the best squads in SL, easily top 4, the problem at the moment is the coach, he's simply incapable of changing how we play to actually improve our attack, he has not being able to change what the players do which results in penalty after penalty and getting involved in niggle we don't need to stoop too, Matongo made a mountain out of a molehill at the end, I mean really, wtf was that, immature or what!
This game highlighted again why we will not move forward with Radford in charge, I thought he might have turned a corner but he really hasn't.

For all of the posters on here saying stop moaning, they clearly don't see the bigger picture as to what the underlying issues are and how we haven't addressed that in the slightest injuries or not.


Wow. This has left me speechless.
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 6:25 am  
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That is why Miloudi and Harris should play in the halves so we are not exposed out wide as we were by a team that would have being beaten by Fev/Toronto and Tolouse, Connor can shore up out wide with whoever is on the wing.
<.. usual anti Radford garbage snipped to save space>


Of course Hull played down the middle a lot. It wasn't too far off of the first choice pack and they were up against the weakest one in SL. At the same time a 2 -7 composed of debutants, a retiree and players out of position was unlikely to gel together well and not surprisingly it didn't.

Spot on tactics from Radford to get the win - how anyone can criticise him on that is insane.

Then again if you coached them with your sports psychologist in tow then no doubt Hull would have won by 50.
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 6:28 am  
I remember the times when if Paul Cooke was injured you fearing taking a hammering due to having no creative outlet on the field, we have lost our 2 first choice halves and Connor is playing out of his sock's at the moment, were are still 4th in the league and we wont be far off the 4 when the super 8's start, was playing Yeaman a mistake, I have no idea. I do not get the reports and see the things Radford and his coaches see in training but I bet playing both centres in a derby game on their debuts played heavily on his mind when selecting Kirk, we got the points and that's what is required at the moment simple as.
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 7:19 am  
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Wow. This has left me speechless.


If only someone would leave him speechless
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 8:00 am  
Until Kelly gets back, Connor has to stay at halfback, for Warrington I'd go with

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Logan
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For Saints the same but Faraimo in for Harris and Miloudi at halfback.

Can see a couple of hammerings in the next two games, hope I'm wrong.

Hopefully win 5/7 after the Saints game and keep us in touching distance
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 8:08 am  
Surely Kirk can hang his boots up and we can use Miloudi who made more metres than Kirk in one run and less errors.
I would keep Connor at 6 and Scott and Miloudi in the centres and Logan and one other on the wing.
Boy oh boy we are low on troops in the back line
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 8:32 am  
Big, big raps to everyone pulling on the shirt yesterday. Some of the negative comments on here are beyond belief. That was an heroic effort from everyone involved and had we had our first team out we would have put 50 points plus on the Dobbins. The uber critics on here need to rein their necks in and support the boys and the coach, who's doing a magnificent job.
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 8:52 am  
Dave K. wrote:
Until Kelly gets back, Connor has to stay at halfback, for Warrington I'd go with

Shaul
Miloudi
Scott
Yeaman
Logan
Connor
Harris

For Saints the same but Faraimo in for Harris and Miloudi at halfback.

Can see a couple of hammerings in the next two games, hope I'm wrong.

Hopefully win 5/7 after the Saints game and keep us in touching distance


To be honest for St's depending how it goes in Friday at Warrington I'd be tempted to keep it as is with Connor/Harris and have Miloudi on the bench.
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 8:56 am  
I know it doesn't getting any better, but Harris is cup tied.

(ps. Shaun Wane is leaving wigan at the end of the season.)
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Re: KR @ Magic : Mon May 21, 2018 9:02 am  
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Surely Kirk can hang his boots up and we can use Miloudi who made more metres than Kirk in one run and less errors.
I would keep Connor at 6 and Scott and Miloudi in the centres and Logan and one other on the wing.
Boy oh boy we are low on troops in the back line


Think we need Yeaman's defensive quality in the back line at the minute as its very inexperienced at this level. Whilst Miloudi is very good going forward and seems to be a bit of a maverick his defence is not a strong point. Considering Yeaman hasn't trained for a year and a half or played a competitive game since 2016 in all fairness he did the job that was asked and played 80mins.

Its a very tough ask for Scott & Miloudi to go up against Atkins/Goodwin and then Makinson/Percival.
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