Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:31 am  

Let me make this clear from the off. I am happy we won, any win is a good result at the moment.

I did however sit in the stands thinking that it's only for a couple of loose passes from Brown and Hanbury that were the difference and much of what we did was one out scoots or drives with a kick at the end. We still don't look like breaching the oppositions try line when we have a set which starts in their 20. Our safety first approach was evidenced by us not off loading the ball until the 70th minute. Oh, and the officials are still poor.

So, I found it surprising to hear RH's commentary team say they thought the ref had a good performance. Did my eyes deceive me by Widnes persistence off side, Ah Vans knock on which Brown scored off on the next play, or the ball strip which was given as a hull knock on which Rankin had a try wrongly disallowed for?

Then again, this is RH, who had a phone in regarding Hull City's announcement that they will not be using the Airco arena for their academy. The phone in wanted listeners thought on this. I phoned in. If you have never phoned in, what happend is you get though to someone who sakes what you want to contribute and that they then call you back when there is a time slot allocated for on air chat. My point was that the Airco Arena was not Hull City's to do as they please with and was yet another piece of evidence of conflict of interest between the SMC and ins of the stadiums tenants. Well, I was never called back and there were no calls taken during the rest of that programme despite the presenters persisting to ask for callers to phone in. Evidence for me that RH do not want to air anything negative against Allam. Anyway, slightly off my own topic.

I watched the game back this morning on TV. Wells and Carney highlighted Hulls attack and how the halves were creating space for Shaul. They showed a couple of examples of this and said it was very constructive play. Admittedly they also said at the end of the game that Hulls attack would not really win many games against the bigger teams.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:38 am  

I was at the game and my mate was at home watching Sky.

He said all their pundits were tipping Widnes to win and were saying because they were rested Widnes would take the game away from us in the last 20 minutes.

In the car listening to the radio on the way home Gollum Lloyd said he thought Silverwood had a good game.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:46 am  

Diogenes wrote:

In the car listening to the radio on the way home Gollum Lloyd said he thought Silverwood had a good game.

If it had been Rovers playing Widnes he'd have been slating him.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:59 am  

Humberside's (Lloyd's) reading of the ref performance last night just shows their (his) complete lack of knowledge of the game. It's almost like he was facing the opposite way to the pitch for 80 mins. When Radford mentioned it he still found it necessary to discount it.

Tend to agree with Carney and Wells at the end of match summary. Still nowhere near well enough organised on our last plays and it's time Houghton/Price/Rankin and Sneyd sorted this out. Having said that I think we are better in this area when Sneyd plays.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:06 am  

Staffs FC wrote:

Humberside's (Lloyd's) reading of the ref performance last night just shows their (his) complete lack of knowledge of the game. It's almost like he was facing the opposite way to the pitch for 80 mins. When Radford mentioned it he still found it necessary to discount it.

Tend to agree with Carney and Wells at the end of match summary. Still nowhere near well enough organised on our last plays and it's time Houghton/Price/Rankin and Sneyd sorted this out. Having said that I think we are better in this area when Sneyd plays.

I'm not sure there will be room for Rankin in the team when Sneyd returns, unless he's on the bench in place of Cunningham or Howarth.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:21 am  

The commentary on sky seems very biased towards widnes imo but i thought Silverwood had a reasonable game barring a couple of mistakes but you expect that, sometimes you get em and sometimes you dont. Didnt see any issues with offside just that Widnes moved up quickly in defense and we just stood there waiting for the attack to come to us

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:25 am  

Hull FC were an absolute pile of poop.

Any other SL team would of put 50+ points by that Widnes team who at one point had just 1 sub left. Widnes were pi22 poor and that why we won.

We are a team of PUSSIES who cannot even sort out Eamon O'Carroll FFS.

Performances like last night will keep me and the thousands of other supporters spending there well earned wages elsewhere.

And as for 'SilverBack'. He hates us. He try's everything in his power to loose us the game.

Pi22 poor team. Pi22 poor tactics. Pi22 poor officials.

Super League Europe.......a complete joke.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:28 am  

Sebasteeno wrote:

The commentary on sky seems very biased towards widnes imo but i thought Silverwood had a reasonable game barring a couple of mistakes but you expect that, sometimes you get em and sometimes you do. Didnt see any issues with offside just that Widnes moved up quickly in defense and we just stood there waiting for the attack to come to us

Widnes were almost constantly offside particularly in the first half when they had the energy for a rush defence. Defenders are not allowed to begin their forward movement until the ball player has touched the ball with his foot (or attempted to it seems these days). Defenders are not allowed to begin moving forward inside the 10 when the ball is placed, or is being placed, on the ground. That is what Widnes were doing.

In terms of us 'standing there and waiting' we would have only conceded 4 points had the correct decisions been awarded - whilst there's always room for improvement that is a good standard. Anyone watching who understands would also have seen some really good wide defence with very few players 'rushing in' against an expansive attack.

In terms of the try decisions Silverwood awarded a try to Widnes after a clear knock on by them and disallowed a perfectly good Hull try when he had chance to refer it to the video referee. He should be disappointed with his performance and it's a good job the score line wasn't closer.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:37 am  

VoiceOfReason wrote:

Hull FC were an absolute pile of poop.

Any other SL team would of put 50+ points by that Widnes team who at one point had just 1 sub left. Widnes were pi22 poor and that why we won.

We are a team of PUSSIES who cannot even sort out Eamon O'Carroll FFS.

Performances like last night will keep me and the thousands of other supporters spending there well earned wages elsewhere.

And as for 'SilverBack'. He hates us. He try's everything in his power to loose us the game.

Pi22 poor team. Pi22 poor tactics. Pi22 poor officials.

Super League Europe.......a complete joke.

Thanks for your contribution. If you can stop getting round the swear filter it would be appreciated.

Re: Do the pundits watch a different game? : Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:45 am  

Thought sky commentary was spot on in their summary of us.
Silverwood made poor decisions for both sides as Ah Van knocked the ball backwards before gathering and making the break so it worked both ways.
Widness line speed in defence was quicker then ours and if Widness were off side then so we're we.
Wish fans would not just see what goes against us and focus on that and actually appreciate what we get away with and that every team in SL encroaches at the play of the ball and we are certainly no different