Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:52 pm  

giddyupoldfella wrote:

so we're without 3 of our 4 most experienced props, and you want to go and drop the 4th because he isn't playing like Arthur Beatson.

And you want to put an outside back into the pack, that is already weakened?

This approach doesn't require balls, it requires a lack of rugby and sporting know how.

So even though Paea is playing awfully he shouldnt be dropped then? We have Fash available and whilst hes not the biggest always gives his all.

As for Griffin hes doing nothing in the centres and Radford has even told him he'll probably play more in the second row this season so whats wrong with that?

Things need to change asap, we need a fresh injection of energy into the pack and if Radfords not prepared to change things then i wish hed go and let someone else with a fresh approach do so

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:58 pm  

Sebasteeno wrote:

So even though Paea is playing awfully he shouldnt be dropped then? We have Fash available and whilst hes not the biggest always gives his all.

As for Griffin hes doing nothing in the centres and Radford has even told him he'll probably play more in the second row this season so whats wrong with that?

Things need to change asap, we need a fresh injection of energy into the pack and if Radfords not prepared to change things then i wish hed go and let someone else with a fresh approach do so

If you are moving Griffin to 2nd row who are you playing in the three quarters?

If we assume Kelly in the halves then Connor goes to centre who is on the wing? Miloudi or Logan are the only options I can think of.
If Kelly isn't back then that's 2 slots to fill.
Griffin is still one of our better options in the three quarters.

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:14 pm  

The simple option is to play Manu in the starting front row and Hadley back to his best position in the second row.
Kelly back means we can move Connor to centre.
Ellis coming off the bench and giving us 30 mins is still our best option.
I would still play Paea but move Griffin onto the bench and play Logan or Miloudi on the wing.
No place for Litten this week as we need another forward on the bench.
irrespective of the team we put out Wigan by at least 14 points

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:20 pm  

Is Kelly definitely back or is that just speculation?

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:22 pm  

scarrie wrote:

Is Kelly definitely back or is that just speculation?

It's definitely speculation.

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:02 pm  

Think its the right time to play them,after the euphoria of the WCC,for wigan it will be after the lord mayors show.

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:15 pm  

des lawson wrote:

Think its the right time to play them,after the euphoria of the WCC,for wigan it will be after the lord mayors show.

What euphoria? They got beat.

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:30 pm  

I definitely think something needs to happen with the pack, I don't often agree with Seb, but I am definitely thinking along the same lines as him this time.

I am sure Ellis won't play, but it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world if he did imo.

Personally I would leave Miloudi on the wing for now (well actually I would go with Ratu but I don't think that is an option). Hakim might have been poor against Cas but he has had good games on the wing before. I would give him another shot. Move Connor to centre, push Griffin into the back row and Manu to prop. Gives us a bit more pace and power in the second row and size in the front row. Drop Paea and give Levy a shot, and let's have a look at Fash as well, at least we know he will give us great work rate.

Shaul
Faraimo
Connor
Tuimavave
Miloudi
Kelly
Sneyd
Masi
Houghton
Manu
Griffin
Minichiello
Westerman

Levy
Fash
Hadley
Litten

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:38 pm  

The euphoria of the game and representing england against oz. May I congratulate you on spotting wigan lost,I would think losing a big match like that anything after that would be an anti climax.

Re: Wigan, the pies, on Sunday : Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:54 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

I definitely think something needs to happen with the pack, I don't often agree with Seb, but I am definitely thinking along the same lines as him this time.

I am sure Ellis won't play, but it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world if he did imo.

Personally I would leave Miloudi on the wing for now (well actually I would go with Ratu but I don't think that is an option). Hakim might have been poor against Cas but he has had good games on the wing before. I would give him another shot. Move Connor to centre, push Griffin into the back row and Manu to prop. Gives us a bit more pace and power in the second row and size in the front row. Drop Paea and give Levy a shot, and let's have a look at Fash as well, at least we know he will give us great work rate.

Shaul
Faraimo
Connor
Tuimavave
Miloudi
Kelly
Sneyd
Masi
Houghton
Manu
Griffin
Minichiello
Westerman

Levy
Fash
Hadley
Litten

How about we don't start panicking after 2 games of the season? 2 games in which we've been ok, and with a bit more more luck and being a bit more clinical, we could have won both..

I think we should do as little tinkering with the team as possible. But let's see who we have available to play for us first.