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Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:03 pm
Posted by Sebasteeno on Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:03 pm
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Feel sorry for Fash - hes been a decent forward for us and better value than Chris sicknote Green

Also why replace him in the squad with Washbrook - bonkers
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Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:20 pm
Posted by Mr. Zucchini Head on Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:20 pm
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Sebasteeno wrote:
Feel sorry for Fash - hes been a decent forward for us and better value than Chris sicknote Green

Also why replace him in the squad with Washbrook - bonkers


Chris Green is a far better player than Fash, although admittedly that doesn't count for much if he is is never on the field. Hopefully when Green returns he can have a good injury free run.

As for Washbrook coming in, it may well just be making up the numbers. Personally I would go with Litten. We can't match their size whoever we select, so there seems little point in fighting fire with fire. Litten could have some joy running at their big guys when they start to tire.
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Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:21 pm
Posted by bonaire on Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:21 pm
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:
Chris Green is a far better player than Fash, although admittedly that doesn't count for much if he is is never on the field. Hopefully when Green returns he can have a good injury free run.

As for Washbrook coming in, it may well just be making up the numbers. Personally I would go with Litten. We can't match their size whoever we select, so there seems little point in fighting fire with fire. Litten could have some joy running at their big guys when they start to tire.


I think Washbrook or Lane will play
Radford said Fash would play so if that was the case our bench would have been Ellis,Fash,Hadley and Thompson.
Unless Radford has now changed his mind and brings in Litten then the bench is likely to be Ellis,Washbrook/Lane,Hadley and Thompson
Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:09 pm
Posted by Sebasteeno on Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:09 pm
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Litten was showing some decent improvement and form before Ellis took his place. Lane i think has had many chances but hasnt shown enough a bit like Turgot
Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:26 pm
Posted by WIZEB on Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:26 pm
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Sebasteeno wrote:
Litten was showing some decent improvement and form before Ellis took his place.


I'm afraid Jez's decent improvement has had to be sacrificed for the time being with 3 victories since Gaz's return.
Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:43 am
Posted by MGarbutt1986 on Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:43 am
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WIZEB wrote:
I'm afraid Jez's decent improvement has had to be sacrificed for the time being with 3 victories since Gaz's return.

Whilst it must be frustrating for Litten, you are quite right, it's a results business, we need to remember Lee's job is on the line so he will be picking the best side he can, Ellis gives him the leadership we had lacked last season.
Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:40 am
Posted by Ellam on Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:40 am
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Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:02 am
Posted by Mr. Zucchini Head on Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:02 am
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WIZEB wrote:
I'm afraid Jez's decent improvement has had to be sacrificed for the time being with 3 victories since Gaz's return.


You've got to find a way to balance long term thinking with short term success though. It's great winning games here and now, but then what? Gaz retires again and we are back to square one?

Fwiw I think the difference Ellis has made has been fairly minimal. Yes it's good to have him back to give a bit of leadership, and he can still hit with the best of them. But his importance has been overstated imo, it has been very much a cameo role for him. I'm fairly confident we would have won these games without him. We just needed a little bit of confidence.

If there is one player you can point to and say he has made a world of difference since he returned, it's Westerman.
Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:47 am
Posted by Chris71 on Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:47 am
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:
WIZEB wrote:
I'm afraid Jez's decent improvement has had to be sacrificed for the time being with 3 victories since Gaz's return.


You've got to find a way to balance long term thinking with short term success though. It's great winning games here and now, but then what? Gaz retires again and we are back to square one?

Fwiw I think the difference Ellis has made has been fairly minimal. Yes it's good to have him back to give a bit of leadership, and he can still hit with the best of them. But his importance has been overstated imo, it has been very much a cameo role for him. I'm fairly confident we would have won these games without him. We just needed a little bit of confidence.

If there is one player you can point to and say he has made a world of difference since he returned, it's Westerman.


Whilst I agree with you that Radford needs to balance long term thinking with short term success I have to disagree about the difference being minimal made by Ellis. The impact of his leadership has been huge and its no coincidence we have won with him back.
You only have to look at him during the warm up with him talking and barking out instructions to the team to see what he brings and what we lost in terms of leadership when he retired.
It may well only be a temporary measure but his impact on the team during his comeback however brief it maybe can not be understated. One of the things that sets Ellis apart from other players is he manages to get players around him to up their game and its those little extra percentages that make the difference. Thats why he is a player that is rare breed and isn't replaceable in a sense.
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Re: Wakefield (H)
Post Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:04 pm
Posted by Riderofthepalehorse on Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:04 pm
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Chris71 wrote:
Whilst I agree with you that Radford needs to balance long term thinking with short term success I have to disagree about the difference being minimal made by Ellis. The impact of his leadership has been huge and its no coincidence we have won with him back.
You only have to look at him during the warm up with him talking and barking out instructions to the team to see what he brings and what we lost in terms of leadership when he retired.
It may well only be a temporary measure but his impact on the team during his comeback however brief it maybe can not be understated. One of the things that sets Ellis apart from other players is he manages to get players around him to up their game and its those little extra percentages that make the difference. Thats why he is a player that is rare breed and isn't replaceable in a sense.


We can only play our best possible side, and the great Gaz Ellis has a bit more to give, the signing of Savelio and Westy, and most certainly others, will hopefully soften the blow, when Ellis finally calls it a day “again”
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