Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:25 am  

PopTart wrote:

Don't think there is anything wrong with Smith playing hooker, but I wouldn't want to change his play or physique to do it.
He's good there but it's his brain and hands that make him good

Equally, hooker for me is one of tge most important positions on the field. It can make or break a team. So if Hood is injured we have to play the best option that can manage the team from 9.

But why? We have one HB and Gaskell and nobody not even Gaskell knows what his position is. There are many more 9's out there than 7's. In our Academy we have an excellent potential future 9 in Jake Camplin, I don't see the equivalent HB.

So my question stands, why would you convert Smith, make zero sense to me?

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:40 am  

Lino ball service is still too slow. We have a very capable set of forwards, who unlike last year look fit as a fiddle. Battye is a new man. Proctor has some kind of engine in him.

I just hope Mash is not scared of playing Smith because Lino is the overseas player. Fev had a go forward scrum half in their side and he bossed us.

Lino tipped the balance from having a poor game to an OK game by creating the off the cuff break in the second half. We can't bank on that every week. I'd prefer a half who can give 60-70 minutes instead of 15.

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:13 am  

vastman wrote:

But why? We have one HB and Gaskell and nobody not even Gaskell knows what his position is. There are many more 9's out there than 7's. In our Academy we have an excellent potential future 9 in Jake Camplin, I don't see the equivalent HB.

So my question stands, why would you convert Smith, make zero sense to me?

I`m pretty sure it was Applegarth that suggested Smith is an option at hooker for us, so if it makes sense for him I`d be happy to go with it. Don`t forget, we also have Langi to cover the halves. It`s worth noting played every single SL game for Warrington at hooker so we are hardly converting him.

All of that said, I thought he looked brilliant in the halves but there there are only so many spots in the team and as MA says "he just wants a place in the team so whether he's picked at nine or half, I don't think it matters to him. He just wants to play,"

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:24 am  

BackSeatCoach wrote:

Lino ball service is still too slow. We have a very capable set of forwards, who unlike last year look fit as a fiddle. Battye is a new man. Proctor has some kind of engine in him.

I just hope Mash is not scared of playing Smith because Lino is the overseas player. Fev had a go forward scrum half in their side and he bossed us.

Lino tipped the balance from having a poor game to an OK game by creating the off the cuff break in the second half. We can't bank on that every week. I'd prefer a half who can give 60-70 minutes instead of 15.

Bossed us? I thought Riley Dean had a dreadful game, his pass selection was off big time, nobody around him seemed to know what he was doing (over running him, holding back), he kicked the ball out on the full twice.

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:01 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

It could be that Hood has picked up an injury. It seems mash is decided on Gaskell/Lino starting the season at HB.

Smith was good at 9 on Boxing Day and has played 9 previous in his career. He is an option at 9 though I agree he is very much a HB for me and that’s where his future is.

I’d be tempted have Smith and Kay alternate at 9 if Hood doesn’t make round 1.

Just my opinion ,but Smith is our best half and like Vastman says looks the classic scrum half. I thought Gaskill was rubbish yesterday . Smith and Lino for me .

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Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:14 pm  

vastman wrote:

But why? We have one HB and Gaskell and nobody not even Gaskell knows what his position is. There are many more 9's out there than 7's. In our Academy we have an excellent potential future 9 in Jake Camplin, I don't see the equivalent HB.

So my question stands, why would you convert Smith, make zero sense to me?

I didn't say you should convert him. You should play the best team you have, and when Hood is injured and Lino and Gaskell are fit, it leaves Smith as a good option.

In terms of why? Because sometimes it's the better option and sometimes it isn't. There is no silver bullet for the decision.
Cooper Cronk was being looked at as a hooker but found a better permanent role at 7.
Cameron Smith who I'd say is the best hooker I've ever seen was a half back at first.
James Lowes made the role his own.

But there are loads who can't. It's up to the coach to spot it or leave them where they are
I like him at 7. Right now I think he's better there.

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:22 pm  

I’d go with Harry Bowes before I chose Smith as a Hooker
Smith is making a significant step up and IMO he will need to play Half Back and stick to that position which will help him develop

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:11 pm  

But worring for me fans are having a discussions about the 3 most important positions on the field .Does not look good for season .

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Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:35 pm  

alegend wrote:

But worring for me fans are having a discussions about the 3 most important positions on the field .Does not look good for season .

I'm not sure us not knowing is really an issue as long as Mash knows what he's doing.

Re: Good result for Fev : Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:45 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Bossed us? I thought Riley Dean had a dreadful game, his pass selection was off big time, nobody around him seemed to know what he was doing (over running him, holding back), he kicked the ball out on the full twice.

Alternative view (from a Fev fan): he created two line breaks out of nothing in the first half, created Evans' try with a deft kick, and generally got Fev on the front foot when he got the ball. There were a couple of plays that didn't work, and he did kick the ball out on the full (once, not twice) but he's only had 1 previous hit-out with his new team mates.

Whilst there was clearly more to the turnaround in the second half than just the fact that he wasn't playing, it certainly wasn't a coincidence that Fev posed less of a threat with ball in hand.