FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Spending the full salary cap
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3728No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 27 200419 years110th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 01:007th Feb 24 23:45LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Spending the full salary cap : Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:31 pm  
vastman wrote:
I think what may have happened here is cause and effect.

The SKY revenue has been substantially reduced. Thus the cap for 2022 onwards must be lower than it was, unless it doesn't work like that? I doubt the shortfall has been made up from elsewhere. So due to the fact that clubs like Leeds/Wigan/Warrington and Saints tend to offer long contract I suspect they have a number of players on bigger deals than they would have offered pre the new deal.

Doesn't affect us as we were never anywhere near the old cap.

However if they want to refresh or bring through young players then something has to give. I can see clubs like these putting players out on subsidised loans or just letting go.

I can see a lot of movement of what used to be called journeymen but are now called squad players, though personally I call then the players who cement teams together in an unsung way.

Applegarth will know many of these players well and should be in a good position to pick off the better ones. It will be his first big test.

The salary cap hasn’t reduced, just the the TV income. Hence the bigger clubs or those with wealthy benefactors can continue to spend the same big money whilst the rest struggle to keep up. It’s up to those clubs, of which we are one, to aim to catch them up.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman35916
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200419 years15th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 08:0429th Mar 24 09:16LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Spending the full salary cap : Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:26 pm  
Sacred Cow wrote:
The salary cap hasn’t reduced, just the the TV income. Hence the bigger clubs or those with wealthy benefactors can continue to spend the same big money whilst the rest struggle to keep up. It’s up to those clubs, of which we are one, to aim to catch them up.


Typical RL, the cap is supposed to be commensurate with the clubs incomes and that has clearly been reduced for all teams. I totally believe you by the way but it makes a mockery of it all, well to me anyway.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20149
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200815 years5th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 02:2329th Mar 24 09:50LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Spending the full salary cap : Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:01 pm  
vastman wrote:
Typical RL, the cap is supposed to be commensurate with the clubs incomes and that has clearly been reduced for all teams. I totally believe you by the way but it makes a mockery of it all, well to me anyway.


But clearly some can still spend to the salary cap. Why would you stop them spending their money.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman35916
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200419 years15th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 08:0429th Mar 24 09:16LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Spending the full salary cap : Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:35 pm  
PopTart wrote:
But clearly some can still spend to the salary cap. Why would you stop them spending their money.


But that’s the point of the cap isn’t it? It’s to stop clubs from spending more than others purely because they can and thus level the playing field a little. So if clubs are getting less from Sky but the cap stays the same doesn’t that instantly widen the gap between rich and poor. We have even less chance of competing, or am I missing something?

Without the cap clubs like Warrington could and would spend double the cap and we’d be stuffed.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20149
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200815 years5th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 02:2329th Mar 24 09:50LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Spending the full salary cap : Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:10 pm  
vastman wrote:
But that’s the point of the cap isn’t it? It’s to stop clubs from spending more than others purely because they can and thus level the playing field a little. So if clubs are getting less from Sky but the cap stays the same doesn’t that instantly widen the gap between rich and poor. We have even less chance of competing, or am I missing something?

Without the cap clubs like Warrington could and would spend double the cap and we’d be stuffed.


Although yes, the point of a cap is to balance the league and is there to stop a club like Warrington buying two teams worth of players,.......it shouldn't be set at the lowest clubs level. Otherwise you end up with a low quality league.
It should be set at something achievable but also a stretch. In my opinion.

Leeds and Warrington would have every right to complain we are dragging the quality down if we can't get some investment to help us plug the gap at least in park.
Especially when the likes of Leigh probably can.
Previous

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
York - 14th April
financialtim
18
6m
TV Games - Not Hull
Marcus's Bic
1389
11m
Ky Rodwell
FIL
112
11m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
56034
12m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
34314
16m
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
WYSIWYG2
2
16m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
imwakefieldt
31
17m
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
WYSIWYG2
5
17m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Marcus's Bic
368
25m
Saints a
apollosghost
26
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
WIZEB
151
1m
Surprise Surprise
Maccbull_Big
63
1m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
imwakefieldt
31
1m
Saints a
apollosghost
26
1m
TV games not Wire
rubber ducki
2868
1m
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
WYSIWYG2
5
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1386
3m
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
WYSIWYG2
2
4m
Spare Tickets Friday
post
4
4m
Wigan/Saints
ratticusfinc
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhinos Go Level Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
York - 14th April
financialtim
18
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
WYSIWYG2
5
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
rubber ducki
18
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
Ckt2487
10
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
TODAY
Saints a
apollosghost
26
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
8
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
imwakefieldt
31
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhino..
166
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
589
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
707
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
596
Warrington Demolish London For..
698
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
752
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
733
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
972
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
939
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1086
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1053
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1124
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1097
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3884
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1215