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Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:37 am  
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2024 would be too late ,if we cut back and get relegated before the development is complete.


2024 could be irrelevant anyway if the powers that be are going to do whats been suggested...
SL1 & SL2 of 10 teams each.
Can't see us being in SL1 even with our flashy new stand unfortunately.
Unless we finish high up next season and that determines what league you're in.........
We're all Trin aren't we?
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:40 am  
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We cannot go on another season like the last three because it will clearly be too late if we wait for the income from the redeveloped ground. We have allowed the squad to be weakened with the possibility of it being further impacted by the loss of several further first team players.
I cannot remember the exact phrase used by the club but it was along the lines of “we want your unquestioning support”. This is all well and good but in return they cannot expect this blind loyalty to cover another season of performances like the last three. I have said before the supporters or what is left have done their bit now it is the club’s turn to provide a squad worthy of this loyalty. It appears that every other team have been able to do this but not us we just continue to play the “we do not have the funds and need to trim costs further” a common phrase drilled into all finance directors and accountants.
The club need to consider at this time of a cost of living crisis that they are in the entertainment business (you will need to use your imagination a bit here) and people will need a good reason to spend any excess funds they have to attend. I am sorry but the only selling point we have is what we produce on the field not in the accounts. The club can continue with their money is tight but it is their job to generate the income now or they face a club stagnating, crowds decreasing, reduced merchandise sales and ultimate relegation. We had until the first of May for example to try to retain the likes of Batchelor but it would appear we decided not to bother based on our we have not asked strategy.
If we dodge relegation this season it gives the club what I believe to be one last chance to correct the on field problems with the squad if they fail to do so despite the obvious then they will have failed the supporters who have put their faith in them and our great club.
I would add that the club will need to do something to protect the patrons in the temporary south stand seating or season ticket sales could be affected considering the season will probably start in February.
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:29 am  
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Rumour! miller getting 20k more at cas said he would stay if we matched it, mr carter said if you want to play at wakey you'l play for what im paying.Then mr minards and some board members said we'd like to keep him he's the club captain we will cover the 20k.mr carter he says no thank.so lets see which rumour is true.
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:39 am  
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TALLYWACKER62 wrote:
Rumour! miller getting 20k more at cas said he would stay if we matched it, mr carter said if you want to play at wakey you'l play for what im paying.Then mr minards and some board members said we'd like to keep him he's the club captain we will cover the 20k.mr carter he says no thank.so lets see which rumour is true.
Could this be the reason why we are seeing a more consistent Miller ?
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:09 pm  
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TALLYWACKER62 wrote:
Rumour! miller getting 20k more at cas said he would stay if we matched it, mr carter said if you want to play at wakey you'l play for what im paying.Then mr minards and some board members said we'd like to keep him he's the club captain we will cover the 20k.mr carter he says no thank.so lets see which rumour is true.

thats also the facts I have heard. Miller did not hang around and signed a 3 year deal at Cas.
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:13 pm  
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
We cannot go on another season like the last three because it will clearly be too late if we wait for the income from the redeveloped ground. We have allowed the squad to be weakened with the possibility of it being further impacted by the loss of several further first team players.
I cannot remember the exact phrase used by the club but it was along the lines of “we want your unquestioning support”. This is all well and good but in return they cannot expect this blind loyalty to cover another season of performances like the last three. I have said before the supporters or what is left have done their bit now it is the club’s turn to provide a squad worthy of this loyalty. It appears that every other team have been able to do this but not us we just continue to play the “we do not have the funds and need to trim costs further” a common phrase drilled into all finance directors and accountants.
The club need to consider at this time of a cost of living crisis that they are in the entertainment business (you will need to use your imagination a bit here) and people will need a good reason to spend any excess funds they have to attend. I am sorry but the only selling point we have is what we produce on the field not in the accounts. The club can continue with their money is tight but it is their job to generate the income now or they face a club stagnating, crowds decreasing, reduced merchandise sales and ultimate relegation. We had until the first of May for example to try to retain the likes of Batchelor but it would appear we decided not to bother based on our we have not asked strategy.
If we dodge relegation this season it gives the club what I believe to be one last chance to correct the on field problems with the squad if they fail to do so despite the obvious then they will have failed the supporters who have put their faith in them and our great club.
I would add that the club will need to do something to protect the patrons in the temporary south stand seating or season ticket sales could be affected considering the season will probably start in February.


I agree with everything you say. What was the announced gate yesterday, 3800 I believe. Seems about top side as crowd looked sparse. Thats not facilities holding support back, its the reasons you have outlined in the main.
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:16 pm  
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TALLYWACKER62 wrote:
Rumour! miller getting 20k more at cas said he would stay if we matched it, mr carter said if you want to play at wakey you'l play for what im paying.Then mr minards and some board members said we'd like to keep him he's the club captain we will cover the 20k.mr carter he says no thank.so lets see which rumour is true.


I heard the same apart from the last bit. Can't imagine he'd just say a flat no, or that the others would just blindly follow.
More to building a team than that.
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Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:29 pm  
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Prince Buster wrote:
thats also the facts I have heard. Miller did not hang around and signed a 3 year deal at Cas.


Facts?

Please, do go on!
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:31 pm  
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TALLYWACKER62 wrote:
Rumour! miller getting 20k more at cas said he would stay if we matched it, mr carter said if you want to play at wakey you'l play for what im paying.Then mr minards and some board members said we'd like to keep him he's the club captain we will cover the 20k.mr carter he says no thank.so lets see which rumour is true.


I've heard the exact same rumour!!!

On here, just now!

It may be true, it may not - but until someone who actually knows spills the beans, that's all it is, a rumour with no credibility.
Re: Jacob Miller critics Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:52 pm  
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Miller has overall struggled with consistency but always has a handful of very good performances in him.

He was on field like a rash all game yesterday and imo was the main reason that Field was snuffed out of the game. Yesterday was an excellent Miller performance.

Despite his faults he has always given no less than 150% on the pitch for us and if he goes will go with the majority of fans thanking him for his efforts in the RWB.

People get frustrated sometimes because they know what he is capable of and I’m his day he can be one of the best HB in the league. It’s just the consistency part but that could be partly due to other reasons.

I’m positive he will want to finish on a high this season no matter where he is next season.
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