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Re: Stats don't lie Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:15 pm  
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It was a disgusting performance and a disgusting result, and Miller can stick his pathetic so called apology up where the sun doesn’t shine.
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Re: Stats don't lie Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:34 pm  
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It was a disgusting performance and a disgusting result, and Miller can stick his pathetic so called apology up where the sun doesn’t shine.


Oh do grow up. I'd love to see you say that to his face, big man.
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Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:26 pm  
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Regarding the stats it’s a bit of a worry if Hall is injured how we will line up in the centres.

Hopefully Hall and Batch line back up in the centres vs Wigan but if that’s not an option then considering Lyne and Tupou are still missing we may need to look at the loan market.

Next year losing Tupou, Croft and Minns (potentially) would leave us very skinny at centre so we really need to be looking at options for 2023 there. Can’t see much in the way of quality available.

Josh Simm probably sticks out as a viable option probably in a similar vein to Hall signing.
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Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:38 pm  
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Regarding the stats it’s a bit of a worry if Hall is injured how we will line up in the centres.

Hopefully Hall and Batch line back up in the centres vs Wigan but if that’s not an option then considering Lyne and Tupou are still missing we may need to look at the loan market.

Next year losing Tupou, Croft and Minns (potentially) would leave us very skinny at centre so we really need to be looking at options for 2023 there. Can’t see much in the way of quality available.

Josh Simm probably sticks out as a viable option probably in a similar vein to Hall signing.


Two great young centres coming the through the Academy. I assume we may go NRL for a centre also.
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Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:18 pm  
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Croft was supposed to be a great young Centre coming through the Academy a few years ago .Hope they are a lot better and faster
Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:41 pm  
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Croft was supposed to be a great young Centre coming through the Academy a few years ago .Hope they are a lot better and faster


Don't think it's fair to totally write Croft off. I tend to agree with PB that he's more championship than SL but he's way better than Sundays efforts.
He has also come back from a bad injury and was partnered (I think) with easily the worst winger we have had in years.

Lineham, Gaskell and Minns on the other hand have no excuses.

Sadly next Sundays sees us playing possibly one of the most lethal combination in SL, so if Croft plays he'll need the best game of his life.
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Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 pm  
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Don't think it's fair to totally write Croft off. I tend to agree with PB that he's more championship than SL but he's way better than Sundays efforts.
He has also come back from a bad injury and was partnered (I think) with easily the worst winger we have had in years.

Lineham, Gaskell and Minns on the other hand have no excuses.

Sadly next Sundays sees us playing possibly one of the most lethal combination in SL, so if Croft plays he'll need the best game of his life.

I did not go to Salford but i would have no problem if he played again. Last time I saw him play was in the reserves when tupou made his brief return to action. He looked a better player than tupou that evening and he went well. To me its his lack of pace and general sharpness that is his weak point. However he is a big strong kid with a good attitude. I am no expert but I would have thought his future may be more of a second rower.
However if Minns, Lineham and Gaskill play and we havnt anyone else better right now then the club must be in a mess
Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:15 pm  
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I did not go to Salford but i would have no problem if he played again. Last time I saw him play was in the reserves when tupou made his brief return to action. He looked a better player than tupou that evening and he went well. To me its his lack of pace and general sharpness that is his weak point. However he is a big strong kid with a good attitude. I am no expert but I would have thought his future may be more of a second rower.
However if Minns, Lineham and Gaskill play and we havnt anyone else better right now then the club must be in a mess


Minns is a disaster, Lineham is an unfunny joke.

Gaskell I feel sorry for, I really believe he wants to do well but no longer can, however that doesn't help us.

I can't bring myself to watch most games we lose, life is to short. But I think we all know that when a team gets destroyed on the flanks the problem is not just with the backs. Others are clearly not pulling their weight, and I know some won't like this but I think Lino is a big offender. I also suspect that Miller had one of his poorer games and this also added to the problems.

I say this because the stats suggest the forwards generally did their work in defence.

I may be wrong but I base this on games I've seen, even in the games we've won we have always looked vulnerable on the flanks.

Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.
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Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:25 pm  
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Minns is a disaster, Lineham is an unfunny joke.

Gaskell I feel sorry for, I really believe he wants to do well but no longer can, however that doesn't help us.

I can't bring myself to watch most games we lose, life is to short. But I think we all know that when a team gets destroyed on the flanks the problem is not just with the backs. Others are clearly not pulling their weight, and I know some won't like this but I think Lino is a big offender. I also suspect that Miller had one of his poorer games and this also added to the problems.

I say this because the stats suggest the forwards generally did their work in defence.

I may be wrong but I base this on games I've seen, even in the games we've won we have always looked vulnerable on the flanks.

Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.

I like how you rip into minns, lineham, and gaskill but totally ignore battye stats or this just another off day chalked up
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Re: Stats don't lie Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:31 pm  
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I like how you rip into minns, lineham, and gaskill but totally ignore battye stats or this just another off day chalked up


I like how you bring up your scapegoat but don't back it up. PT didn't post Battye's stats so I don't know, do you.

Of course you don't your just gobbing it as ever.

So toddle off and find them and if they back you up then that's great, you win :roll:
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