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Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:28 am  
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By the size of him he would have definitely gone toe to toe with Pauli Pauli on the pie n pint nights out .The few games I’ve seen him play over here he looked unfit and overweight , dodged a real bullet if I’m honest not coming to wakey and will have been on a decent packet also , whitbread all the way for me .

I watched him come through as a junior and he is a massively talented player…
Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:10 am  
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I watched him come through as a junior and he is a massively talented player…


One thing I've always believed is that talent is permanent.

However some players can only express this in the right environment for them where as with others it doesn't seem to matter.

I'm not getting at Ketty here, but we should know this better than most. Our SL history is littered with rejects and odballs and especially players written off who've become absolute stars at the club.

JD couldn't get a gig in the NRL. Korky was voted as one of the ten worst Roosters players of all time. Fifita was just a curio to his illustrious brother and so on.

Had this lad come to us, a club with a very welcoming inclusive culture he may well have clicked. I'd still be interested in this particular player, fitness is fairly easy to regain if you are happy and thus willing to do the work.

So yes we may have dodged a bullet, but likewise despite whats happened at Warrington we may have missed a gem.
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Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:58 am  
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Sadly you can't know that. As spook said he could have found Trinity a better club for him. Players tend to get over weight and out of shape due to injuries or being unhappy where they are.

All the same I'm now very happy with Whitbread so it's academic.

I watched his first game over here in particular because of the wakey connection and he was overweight and put a poor performance in ,and also the rest of the games he played . We simply can’t afford to have anymore overseas deadwood in our team , we have had our bellies full over the years of payday players over for a quick buck . I Stand by my statement in that we dodged an expensive bullet imo .
Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:16 am  
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I watched his first game over here in particular because of the wakey connection and he was overweight and put a poor performance in ,and also the rest of the games he played . We simply can’t afford to have anymore overseas deadwood in our team , we have had our bellies full over the years of payday players over for a quick buck . I Stand by my statement in that we dodged an expensive bullet imo .


Yes but what I'm trying to say is that just because he was 'deadwood' at Warrington as you put it doesn't mean he would have been for us.

Solomona was totally out of shape when he arrived and tbf so was Whitbread, he's only come good in the last month or so. You just can't judge players totally on how they have done at their previous club.
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Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:00 pm  
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If you consider Miller who many at Hull were glad to see him leave but at Wakefield his improvement now makes him wanted by a former Hull coach.
Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:26 pm  
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Yes but what I'm trying to say is that just because he was 'deadwood' at Warrington as you put it doesn't mean he would have been for us.

Solomona was totally out of shape when he arrived and tbf so was Whitbread, he's only come good in the last month or so. You just can't judge players totally on how they have done at their previous club.


I don't agree about Whitbread. He's had games like this before he was just over shadowed by others playing badly. He was a key player when we beat Warrington in games 1 and 2.
It just got trendy to bag him.
I remember posting his stats and doesn't make errors and does the hard work for others. Great signing in my opinion.

Solomona by his own admission needed to catch up but realistically, he could have been on crutches and still been the best player on the field.

In terms of Magoulias I agree I think he chose the wrong club. He needed a club that would let him have some freedom. They tried to make him into an average middle when he's a 13. Shame but we covered that loss now.
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Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:07 pm  
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Yes but what I'm trying to say is that just because he was 'deadwood' at Warrington as you put it doesn't mean he would have been for us.

Solomona was totally out of shape when he arrived and tbf so was Whitbread, he's only come good in the last month or so. You just can't judge players totally on how they have done at their previous club.

Didn’t mean anything disrespectful to Magoulias vastman , but I’ve seen far too many so called big names over the years turn up for us and turn out to be damp squibs ,and billy certainly didn’t stand out in a poor wires outfit from the games I’ve seen him in . Reading about his return home on compassionate ground it stated that his wife’s sister was having her first child , and they wanted to be close .Big ask for any player to drag his wife and kids half way round the world and then get dropped into a team in turmoil with zero confidence, think it may be a case of him dodging a bullet and not the wires on this one .
Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:18 pm  
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Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:59 pm  
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Played at 13 for Newtown Jets yesterday.


The Sharks feeder club. Looks like he’s coming home.
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Re: O/T Billy Magoulias Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:50 pm  
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I don't agree about Whitbread. He's had games like this before he was just over shadowed by others playing badly. He was a key player when we beat Warrington in games 1 and 2.
It just got trendy to bag him.
I remember posting his stats and doesn't make errors and does the hard work for others. Great signing in my opinion.

Solomona by his own admission needed to catch up but realistically, he could have been on crutches and still been the best player on the field.

In terms of Magoulias I agree I think he chose the wrong club. He needed a club that would let him have some freedom. They tried to make him into an average middle when he's a 13. Shame but we covered that loss now.


I agree about Whitbread. Some are only just seeing it this past 3/4 games but for me he’s been a workhorse throughout. Every club needs a direct no nonesence player who can graft the yards and defend well with a low error rate. He has adapted well to the prop position. When the season started I had him at 13 but he’s really grown into the prop role.

Id extend his contract now if we haven’t already.
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