cosmicat wrote:

Bloody hell we couldn’t even replace westy !!

For me, JW has been a big loss.

cosmicat wrote:

Do want trinity did in the early 90s sack all the players over 21

Would not work if they made it 21 to 29 we would still have not got rid of a lot

Sorry if I'm missing something here but we seem to be sleepwalking into relegation!We may have 13/14 matches left, but how many of those are needed to turn it around, if at all?Toulouse are miles away now from the pushovers we expected, and even if we beat them at Newcastle that's no guarantee of safety.We seem to be making the mistake of thinking 'it's only Toulouse', and I was just as guilty, but their owners are seeing a clearer picture than us, and making game changing decisions,whilst we aren't,or nothing that we know about.It's understandable that we discuss what our team might look like next season, but what are we going to do about this one?
If anybody thinks I'm panicking for no reason and there's plenty of time to get enough points, fair enough, hope you're right, but I'm not so sure.

phe13 wrote:

For me, JW has been a big loss.

Absolutely massive. He was the best 13 in SL for me last year, especially with his ball playing ability. He had a strong physical presence too in the middle.

As good as Westerman was individually, it hardly transferred to the team overall, in fact it wasn't until the end of the season when he featured less that we started looking like something of a team.

I never took Toulouse lightly, they have a bigger budget and better backing than we have, however I thought we would be better than how the season has unfolded so far, meaning we finish higher than a few of the English clubs. That's looking unlikely now and I cant see us getting enough wins to keep us up.

I say it every season, every game for us is a must win game as you just never know when we hit that brick wall , we simply dont have the luxury of buying ours out of trouble , the lad have to roll their collective sleeves up and work their way out of this sink hole we find ourselves slipping into . Still plenty of games in the bank but we desperately need to start looking like a competitive squad , we’re just all at 6s n 7s in our attacking structures whilst fairing a bit better in defence but nothing to write home about . Most of our tries have come from off the cuff moves instead of structured , we are easily defended against as everything is telegraphed and with the passing being clunky and no one willing or able to run onto the ball hard enough to drag defenders in and get our backs a clear run in .

From which games are we going to pick up our required wins?

Remaining Fixtures

Hull H
Warrington H
Salford A
Wigan H
Toulouse, Magic Weekend
Hull KR A
St Helens H
Castleford A
Catalans H
Wigan H
Hull A
Hull KR H
St Helens A
Huddersfield A

The Avenger wrote:

From which games are we going to pick up our required wins?

Remaining Fixtures

Hull H
Warrington H
Salford A
Wigan H
Toulouse, Magic Weekend
Hull KR A
St Helens H
Castleford A
Catalans H
Wigan H
Hull A
Hull KR H
St Helens A
Huddersfield A

That run in looks, in the most part, a nightmare. Obviously Toulouse at magic is a must. As i’ve put elsewhere i had Warrington at home as a target given we’ve done them 3 times since Willie took over but their new signings have just made that harder. Salford is possible, they blow hot & cold and are down on forwards. Hull KR x2 are the ones that might help, they’ve dropped significantly since Smith announced he was leaving. But none look bankers any more.