Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

We are probably the most loyal supporters considering the rubbish we have had to put up with for several seasons. .

We're not though are we? We have been in Super League for over 20 years so many of our younger fans know no different than watching Trinity v the top teams. Fans of say Rochdale, Oldham, Whitehaven etc deserve far greater credit. Lets give the loyalty badge to anyone who's on here, or more importantly at the ground, next season if we get relegated.

I remember the dark day at the club ,when not only players weren’t getting payed but neither were the bills , me n the misses used to come down n clean the seats in the stand to help out and pull the tarpaulins over the pitch to make sure the games would be played . We’ve come a long long way in that respect and you don’t get that feeling now that the HMRC will turn the lights off and bring the curtains down one last time . Off field we are stable , but we need to seriously toughen up on the playing side , it’s all purely hindsight now but I wonder what we would have looked like after a few seasons under Brian Smith and his tough regime . We may have just been moulded into a much more resilient fighting force than the one that buckles under the pressure of the game that we have now , who knows now that’s behind us and we move on . But we have Poching now so we have to back him and the board and see what comes to fruition in the coming months ,and win a few games whilst we all wait with baited breath .

jonh wrote:

Most fickle fans ever.

Reading social media and this forum it’s laughable.

If you support the club, support the club.

So much negativity over a player that takes a big chunk of the cap and hardly plays and a lad who in truth has stagnated at the club and doesn’t get a game over 2 very average players.

Miller I think is a big miss if he goes.

Batch and TJ very replaceable.

Same “fans” should be blushing but will be giving it the big one when we stay up (and we will).

Miller has already signed at Cas 100%

[Wildthing]

Maybe the club is currently negotiating with players as replacements but don't have anything concrete to announce yet?
Have to give them some time, but the silence at the minute is rather deafening.

jonh wrote:

Most fickle fans ever.

Reading social media and this forum it’s laughable.

If you support the club, support the club.

So much negativity over a player that takes a big chunk of the cap and hardly plays and a lad who in truth has stagnated at the club and doesn’t get a game over 2 very average players.

Miller I think is a big miss if he goes.

Batch and TJ very replaceable.

Same “fans” should be blushing but will be giving it the big one when we stay up (and we will).

I'll support the club irrespective of the division they play in, doesn't change that I think we're heading in one direction and it's not upwards. Players leave, thats part of the game, and whilst we can say all we want about Johnstone not playing half the games, Batch being a squad player and Miller being poor over the past few seasons (not you) the issue is who these players are replaced by. I don't expect improvements, especially as yet again we are flirting with relegation so will be last pick for most players.

But isn't it an opportunity for the club to recruit quality and to make a couple of the new signings building blocks.
Build a team around new signings and sell the club on that basis, Stoke a couple of egos.
Should we survive in SL my fear would be we continue with a hooker, stand off and at least 3 pack members that quite frankly are not SL material.

lampyboy wrote:

The clubs a shambles and if the present rumours are true the club must take full responsibility for the contract situation.

You do know that contracts are agreed by both parties don't you?

I have no idea if the club concider any of the present players involved as major key players, but if they do why wasn't contract extentions offered at the start of the season. I would also say that if you don't consider the captain of the club and major playmaker a key player somethings wrong.

As above how do you know contracts have not been offered these can extremely private and long negotiations for a club and a player to agree as well as players having other options on the table.
Wakefield start every season on the back foot mainly because of the poor showing in the transfer market.

Batch I would imagine must be a money thing because HKR will not be much better than Trin providing Trinity can stay up.

It could be money it could be that he has been given better opportunities to play . At Wakefield I rate Batch but he has had his injuries and he competes in an area where we have similar players.

A club with no ambition or any intention of improvements sends the wrong message to the players and fans, loyal players become frustrated resulting in wanting away.
Change in attitude and directions needed, but I'm willing to bet nothing will change

Why not just sit back and see what develops in respect of players coming and players going.

Just what are your intentions for the club Mr Carter.

I do not think he has to be accountable to this forum do you?

My take on things is TJ has been loyal as have we to him, for a low budget club we need more appearances, Back row forwards we have a dearth at the moment, Miller I will be sad to see go although many fans have slaughtered him over the past seasons. Both he and TJ can leave the club with their heads held high as can Batch.

Others off contract will show we have some top earners leaving so who knows what the plan is for the club but your last point will be answered I suspect shortly.

lampyboy wrote:

The clubs a shambles and if the present rumours are true the club must take full responsibility for the contract situation.
I have no idea if the club concider any of the present players involved as major key players, but if they do why wasn't contract extentions offered at the start of the season. I would also say that if you don't consider the captain of the club and major playmaker a key player somethings wrong.
Wakefield start every season on the back foot mainly because of the poor showing in the transfer market.
Batch I would imagine must be a money thing because HKR will not be much better than Trin providing Trinity can stay up.
A club with no ambition or any intention of improvements sends the wrong message to the players and fans, loyal players become frustrated resulting in wanting away.
Change in attitude and directions needed, but I'm willing to bet nothing will change
Just what are your intentions for the club Mr Carter.

Clubs on its booty …..

I imagine there are a few sensitive negotiations going on at the moment, so it can't be easy for the board to release much/any details at the moment, but the supporters are on a massive downer and they need some clarity as soon as possible.Perhaps after we get the Leeds match out of the way.