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Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 8:23 am  
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Sat May 21, 2022 8:23 am  

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Slugger McBatt wrote:
As I read this, fans are panicking because we are in a hole on the field once more.

There are two sides to Trinity: on the field and off the field.

Off the field is MC's arena. The club is in a better position than for years. We own the ground. We are financially stable (so everyone says). The ground is about to be redeveloped. MC and Mindards have done a sterling job and they should carry on.

On the field, not so good. The only criticism I can level at MC, if I really tried, was that he stuck with Chester for too long, but Chester's good couple of seasons probably gave him brownie points that bought him a season longer than perhaps should have been the case. As for Willie, we don't know if the club finances dictated his appointment, rather than advertising for someone with a greater pedigree. If it was finances, then that is just how it goes. It is hard to blame someone for on the field situations, however, when that is not his arena or forte.

As for attracting investors, there is no such thing in rugby league. Investors expect a return on the investment. Anyone who pumps money into a rugby league club does it as a hobby with money they don't mind losing. So, is it MC's fault no one is offering to waste millions of pounds? Unlikely to be a queue of people.

MC I've no issue with and I hope we don't lose him. I prefer stability over anything else. I just wish we hadn't made the same mistake as so previous years, appointing someone who is really just an assistant on the back of a sacking bounce.


Perfectly sums it up

Everyone knew Chester should have gone years before he did

Other than that one decision I’ll back carter all the way, everything he’s done for the club has being excellent
Also believe he kept him on out of loyalty and decency
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Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 11:47 am  
Re: Mr Carter
Sat May 21, 2022 11:47 am  

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1315trinity wrote:
So, if MC goes now who's going to run the club?
Whatever the reason is for what's happening on the pitch, the blame doesn't lie with the directors running the club.
They have been badly let down as we all have.
They appointed WP as coach following good performances initially and to the approval of most on here.
They sign players on the recommendations of the coach, so they are hardly to blame for the playing personnel.
Sorry, but the buck stops with WP for me. He's got too much faith in some players who are simply not doing it for him. He needs to have a long hard think and fast, because, unlike many other survival years we've had in SL, this year we ARE the worst team and I seriously think this year we've been well and truly found out.

Sorry W Poaching as had little input to the garbage that is in the team .If you pick a team made up from the Championship you will play like a team from the Championship you may get the odd win whoever the Coach is .
Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 1:08 pm  
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1315trinity wrote:
So, if MC goes now who's going to run the club?
Whatever the reason is for what's happening on the pitch, the blame doesn't lie with the directors running the club.
They have been badly let down as we all have.
They appointed WP as coach following good performances initially and to the approval of most on here.
They sign players on the recommendations of the coach, so they are hardly to blame for the playing personnel.
Sorry, but the buck stops with WP for me. He's got too much faith in some players who are simply not doing it for him. He needs to have a long hard think and fast, because, unlike many other survival years we've had in SL, this year we ARE the worst team and I seriously think this year we've been well and truly found out.

I’m with you all the way apart from its all down to the Poching who imo has his hands tied and has to work with the squad and the financial constraints put before him , the lad must be bereft watching the poop show that unfolded before him last night .He’s got what he’s got until he can move some on and bring some in ,and until such times there are only so many ways you can dress up a turd . How about the players putting some effort in as a way of alleviating the pressure we now find ourselves under , but for whatever reasons they can’t or don’t want to . I would hope that things are afoot to chop and change players at the earliest opportunity as I cannot believe that our performances are solely down to poaching’s coaching . He certainly doesn’t coach them to either drop or knock the ball on at every available opportunity, defend constantly offside so the opposition get a piggyback up the field time and time again . No he doesn’t and that is where the blame for all this lays squarely at that lacklustre bunch of deadbeats that I for now have to call my team .
Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 2:33 pm  
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Ok all the slaver must stop magic weekend is our cup final win or relegation simple !!
Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 2:47 pm  
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Even if we do somehow manage to beat Toulouse at Magic Weekend, we will still not be out of the brown smelly stuff as they are improving week on week and we are deteriorating week on week !!
M.I.B. ??....nope - M.I.R.W.B !!!

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Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 3:09 pm  
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FIL wrote:
Even if we do somehow manage to beat Toulouse at Magic Weekend, we will still not be out of the brown smelly stuff as they are improving week on week and we are deteriorating week on week !!

I see they've freed up a quota spot this week as well. If they are clever with its use it could make things a good chunk tougher for us as well.
Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 5:20 pm  
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Sat May 21, 2022 5:20 pm  

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Yep they certainly give things alot of thought, they have realised that they must mix things up to stay up.
Good on them, puts us to shame
Re: Mr Carter Sat May 21, 2022 7:38 pm  
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Kettykat wrote:
I’m with you all the way apart from its all down to the Poching who imo has his hands tied and has to work with the squad and the financial constraints put before him , the lad must be bereft watching the poop show that unfolded before him last night .He’s got what he’s got until he can move some on and bring some in ,and until such times there are only so many ways you can dress up a turd . How about the players putting some effort in as a way of alleviating the pressure we now find ourselves under , but for whatever reasons they can’t or don’t want to . I would hope that things are afoot to chop and change players at the earliest opportunity as I cannot believe that our performances are solely down to poaching’s coaching . He certainly doesn’t coach them to either drop or knock the ball on at every available opportunity, defend constantly offside so the opposition get a piggyback up the field time and time again . No he doesn’t and that is where the blame for all this lays squarely at that lacklustre bunch of deadbeats that I for now have to call my team .


Ok I could have made it a bit clearer. What I really meant to say was Willie will get the blame. I appreciate he has to play the cards he's dealt but I really don't understand some team selections but I suppose he's a desparate man and is trying different ways round things. He will still get the chop though if things fail!
Re: Mr Carter Sun May 22, 2022 9:17 am  
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lampyboy wrote:
It's baffling to me why supporters don't get angry, it's like they have been brainwashed in to the MC school of thought.
No advance for years under the Carter regime, he's 100% responsible for the position his club finds itself in.


It’s baffling to me how you have selective memories

Clearly you’ve forgotten Glover. Clearly you’ve forgotten two top 8 finishes in the last five years.

Are you so xxxx that you don’t realise that to build a basket case club back up with a rebuilt stadium and a rebuilt club off the pitch.

Do you honestly think we could have carried on as we were.

Sacrifices have to be made and if that means potential relegation then so be it. Because what keyboard warriors like you don’t seem to grasp is that relegation was inevitable anyway.

For heavens sake look at BV, look at it with open eyes. It’s light years behind and it been like that for decades. The only club near us is Cas but for whatever reason they get more support than they technically should do.

We have been on borrowed time since 1979 on the field and forever off it. How we are still on SL baffles me. Very little of this is MC’s fault.

Finally the on field performances are down to the team, stop taking utter rot.

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Re: Mr Carter Sun May 22, 2022 10:00 am  
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Sun May 22, 2022 10:00 am  

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vastman wrote:
It’s baffling to me how you have selective memories

Clearly you’ve forgotten Glover. Clearly you’ve forgotten two top 8 finishes in the last five
you don’t realise that to build a basket case club back up with a rebuilt stadium and a rebuilt club off the pitch.

Do you honestly think we could have carried on as we were.

Sacrifices have to be made and if that means potential relegation then so be it. Because what keyboard warriors like you don’t seem to grasp is that relegation was inevitable anyway.

For heavens sake look at BV, look at it with open eyes. It’s light years behind and it been like that for decades. The only club near us is Cas but for whatever reason they get more support than they technically should do.

We have been on borrowed time since 1979 on the field and forever off it. How we are still on SL baffles me. Very little of this is MC’s fault.

Finally the on field performances are down to the team, stop taking utter rot.

Liked your post but I hope your not saying the top 8 finished was down to the Coach He inerited a decent team left by B Smith and also
J Kear was at the club .A good Coach is some one who can rebuild a new team when players need changing and still keep them at the top.TSmith , Watson ,,The guy at Wires are 3 that spring to mind .But as for blaming Mr Carter for the state of the team is way out of order
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