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Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 12:53 pm  
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I'm sure you know what you mean, but for the benefit of those that aren't so sure, could you explain in simple terms.


Non of us know what Tom is on although given when he was in demand and playing well when he signed his last deal it is likely he is one of our higher earners.

We don’t know his salary expectations moving forward for his next contract.

Personally we’re he to re sign with Trinity I would hope it would be on reduced terms given the injury issues he has had during his current contract and our financial challenges.

If we could get him on a reduced contract definitely sign him back up. If he is expecting an upgrade then personally I wouldn’t sign him back up.
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Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 1:56 pm  
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jonh wrote:
Non of us know what Tom is on although given when he was in demand and playing well when he signed his last deal it is likely he is one of our higher earners.

We don’t know his salary expectations moving forward for his next contract.

Personally we’re he to re sign with Trinity I would hope it would be on reduced terms given the injury issues he has had during his current contract and our financial challenges.

If we could get him on a reduced contract definitely sign him back up. If he is expecting an upgrade then personally I wouldn’t sign him back up.


Why would he accept reduced terms because he was injured in the past. That's a ridiculous suggestion.
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Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 3:58 pm  
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Why would he accept reduced terms because he was injured in the past. That's a ridiculous suggestion.


Ridiculous? Really? Plenty do and have done over the years.

It all depends on the market though and his own feelings towards the club and wider ambitions.

It’s supply and demand. If he is in demand and his market value is pushed up and he chooses to go for the money fair play.

We don’t know the facts in relation to his salary so it’s pure speculation but you have to take into account his injury record, his ongoing issues and off set that against performance when making the decision.

Jonny Lomax took reduced terms at Saints after a couple of years of bad injuries a few years ago. Bevan French took reduced terms for 22 as he felt he owed it to the club after they supported him through his injury and issues in 21.

There is risk in every signing and contract renewal. To increase TJ’s wage is a higher risk than others given his history. If we had money to spend up to cap then of course we renew him. Another year on reduced terms with a view to extending on better terms in 24 would be an ideal solution.

In the situation we are in we can’t tie up significant cap space for it to be sat in the stands.
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Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 5:47 pm  
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jonh wrote:
If we could get him on a reduced contract definitely sign him back up. If he is expecting an upgrade then personally I wouldn’t sign him back up.


Even if the outcome turned out to be signing a cheaper, less good winger? Or are you presuming any saving would be invested elsewhere?
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Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 6:05 pm  
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[quote="jonh"]At the moment Wakefield do not need world class wingers.

There are far bigger issues with the squad.

If Tom goes we still have 4 SL standard wingers at the club

I don't want a standard SL winger, whatever one of those is, I want Tom Johnstone on one wing and as it looks now Louis Murphy on the other.
Other players leaving may fund a couple of props if we buy shrewdly (and we've done that before!).
Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 6:17 pm  
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someone seems to have a guilty conscience . You mean Fisherman who you don't know who private messaged me to tell me you wasnt well many months ago. I've still got the message old boy


I got the exact same message and also still have it

Quite literally hillarious considering how vile a human being he is

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Re: Tom Johnstone Thu May 05, 2022 7:00 pm  
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Even if the outcome turned out to be signing a cheaper, less good winger? Or are you presuming any saving would be invested elsewhere?


If TJ was to go I don’t believe a replacement winger would be a priority given the lads we currently have at the club.

If we had money left over once we prioritised the pack and secured the signings we needed then we could look at outside backs.

With the emergence of Murphy I’d be comfortable with him and Lineham as our starting wingers in 2023 as Lind as we made the necessary improvements in the pack.
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Re: Tom Johnstone Tue May 10, 2022 4:28 pm  
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According to reports circulating in the media he is close to signing with Catalans.
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Re: Tom Johnstone Tue May 10, 2022 4:36 pm  
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According to reports circulating in the media he is close to signing with Catalans.


I wonder if we are trying to negotiate a swap? We will loose him for nowt at end of season. Did I read Gil Dudson was out of contract?
Re: Tom Johnstone Tue May 10, 2022 4:50 pm  
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According to reports circulating in the media he is close to signing with Catalans.


I wonder if we are trying to negotiate a swap? We will loose him for nowt at end of season. Did I read Gil Dudson was out of contract?


I don’t think it works like that. If we were to swap it could only be for this season while he’s under contract. Unless we sign him to another deal he is going for nothing.

TJ and Dudson are still free to sign for anybody they choose. We would be absolutely bonkers if we short term swapped one of our match winners for Dudson with the precarious position in the league we are in.

This is how wild rumours start. As it stands anyone can talk to TJ so it’s no surprise there’s interest.
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