Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:59 am  

Spookisback wrote:

I have a huge anti union agenda.... can I join in ??? Is this a general issue or are we being specific???

I no longer have an anti Union bias, in fact these days I admire them. Not on the pitch so much but certainly off it. Union in the last 30 years has got almost everything right in a way that RL has got almost everything wrong.

Forget about the 5 nations myth, when RU went pro international RL was still on a high, we blew it not them.

I love RL to my core but when I see those running the game I can’t help but lament the limited gene pool our game pulls from. Being a working class sport is both Leagues greatest strength and it’s greatest weakness. Like it or not the cooler heads, those with long term visions and the abilities to match don’t generally come from or live in the working class North of England. That includes me, I have ideas, some of them good but I’m not educated enough or worldly wise enough to ever know how to put them in action. I typify the northern working man, well meaning but a man who thinks he knows the answers but does very little about it, mainly because I don’t know how or have the self confidence to try. In the end I defer far to often to the big lad who shouts a lot.

I really like both MC and JM but not because they are visionary or brilliant but purely because they are competent, something that should be a given but isn’t They may well, given the chance, one day to prove themselves as such but the tragedy is that by being nothing more than sensible they are head and shoulders above those running most clubs and certainly those allegedly running the game.

Sad but true, RU draws its leaders from the professional and monied classes and it shows. There are people running some well known RL clubs who I wouldn’t trust with running a circus ride.

Of course not everyone in RU is fit to do there job nor is everyone in RL a clown and that applies to the top and bottom of both sports. Where sadly it differs is in ratio and in that RL is the loser.

It’s worst at amateur level, lots of petty small minded people building their own little empires based mainly on who as already stated can shout the loadest.

My lad played both League and Union for nearly 20 years. We both loved League far more but time and time again we were better treated and better looked after by the Union clubs. Far more friendly and far more open and above all well run.

Why any kid who wasn’t steeped in RL would chose it over Union is beyond me and thus the limited gene pool continues.

I confess it’s got better and the input of people like MC and JM is helping but they remain marginalised. You only have to look at the way the real ale drinking intelligencia on Total RL vilify MC for stating the obvious that the game is held back by these tribal nobodies. They call him moaning Mike, so grown up.

The demise of RL has been predicted for decades but if those running the game don’t get a grip in the next few years it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.

So no I don’t have an issue with Union any more I have it with RL (off the pitch).

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:03 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

:thumb:

Trinity fan ( Yorkshire Prose) is Navy captain

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:47 am  

Union was born from the wealthy and still relies heavily on those figures to keep the game going . You’ve only to look at our own sandal Ru who oversaw the demise of wakefield ru when a certain gentleman fell out and took his money to sandal ,wakefield crumbled ,the rest is history . Where would football be without the millionaires/billionaire,s pouring their ill gotten gains into the sport , And whilst were on about dodgy folk , I don’t think anyone connected to league can hold a candle to blatter and platini overseeing the World Cup for corruption .Honest game run by decent hard working guys giving their time for a great cause is how I see RL now ,it’s not always been the case ,but of the folk I come into contact with at both professional and amateur levels nowadays,it’s got a bright future IMO

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:44 am  

Kettykat wrote:

Union was born from the wealthy and still relies heavily on those figures to keep the game going . You’ve only to look at our own sandal Ru who oversaw the demise of wakefield ru when a certain gentleman fell out and took his money to sandal ,wakefield crumbled ,the rest is history . Where would football be without the millionaires/billionaire,s pouring their ill gotten gains into the sport , And whilst were on about dodgy folk , I don’t think anyone connected to league can hold a candle to blatter and platini overseeing the World Cup for corruption .Honest game run by decent hard working guys giving their time for a great cause is how I see RL now ,it’s not always been the case ,but of the folk I come into contact with at both professional and amateur levels nowadays,it’s got a bright future IMO

Well Ketty I hope you’re right but I must be listening to different people regarding the amateur game.

One point regarding corruption in football, yes it’s true but at least these individual had the ability to create a sporting giant capable of being fleeced. RL has been so badly run that it has nothing to rob, hence it attracts nobodies. Ralph Rimmer, seriously the guy wouldn’t get higher than a supervisor in something like a bank. Fair play though he fell lucky and had just enough nouse to exploit it.

Through the years RL has attracted some quality people but somehow they get lost in the sea mediocrity or oafishness that exists in the sport.

I hold firm, in the last 30 years RU has got it right almost every time whilst League has got it wrong far to often, dogged by parochialism and petty infighting. BARLA is your prime example, I’m not taking sides, what I’m saying is that it should never have been needed in the first place.

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:36 pm  

Just been made aware that Sky have disabled the "record" function for next Saturday's match on Channel 4 between Leeds and Warrington....why would they do that ???

(I've just tried setting it on our Sky box and it won't do it !!)

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Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:39 pm  

Same here. That seems extremely petty.

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:41 pm  

If you have a hard drive plug it in and record via Freeview simple

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:44 pm  

it wouldn't surprise me that the screen will go blank too, get ready to use the old aerial

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:50 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

If you have a hard drive plug it in and record via Freeview simple

Tight bugger

But can it be set to record in advance if you are not in ?

Re: Channel 4 RL advert : Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:36 am  

vastman wrote:

I no longer have an anti Union bias, in fact these days I admire them. Not on the pitch so much but certainly off it. Union in the last 30 years has got almost everything right in a way that RL has got almost everything wrong.

Forget about the 5 nations myth, when RU went pro international RL was still on a high, we blew it not them.

I love RL to my core but when I see those running the game I can’t help but lament the limited gene pool our game pulls from. Being a working class sport is both Leagues greatest strength and it’s greatest weakness. Like it or not the cooler heads, those with long term visions and the abilities to match don’t generally come from or live in the working class North of England. That includes me, I have ideas, some of them good but I’m not educated enough or worldly wise enough to ever know how to put them in action. I typify the northern working man, well meaning but a man who thinks he knows the answers but does very little about it, mainly because I don’t know how or have the self confidence to try. In the end I defer far to often to the big lad who shouts a lot.

I really like both MC and JM but not because they are visionary or brilliant but purely because they are competent, something that should be a given but isn’t They may well, given the chance, one day to prove themselves as such but the tragedy is that by being nothing more than sensible they are head and shoulders above those running most clubs and certainly those allegedly running the game.

Sad but true, RU draws its leaders from the professional and monied classes and it shows. There are people running some well known RL clubs who I wouldn’t trust with running a circus ride.

Of course not everyone in RU is fit to do there job nor is everyone in RL a clown and that applies to the top and bottom of both sports. Where sadly it differs is in ratio and in that RL is the loser.

It’s worst at amateur level, lots of petty small minded people building their own little empires based mainly on who as already stated can shout the loadest.

My lad played both League and Union for nearly 20 years. We both loved League far more but time and time again we were better treated and better looked after by the Union clubs. Far more friendly and far more open and above all well run.

Why any kid who wasn’t steeped in RL would chose it over Union is beyond me and thus the limited gene pool continues.

I confess it’s got better and the input of people like MC and JM is helping but they remain marginalised. You only have to look at the way the real ale drinking intelligencia on Total RL vilify MC for stating the obvious that the game is held back by these tribal nobodies. They call him moaning Mike, so grown up.

The demise of RL has been predicted for decades but if those running the game don’t get a grip in the next few years it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.

So no I don’t have an issue with Union any more I have it with RL (off the pitch).

Interesting viewpoint some of which I agree, others I don’t... but non of which contain my reasons for hating Rugby Union