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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:42 pm  
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These are RFL rules not government rules

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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:43 pm  
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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:00 pm  
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PopTart wrote:
These are RFL rules not government rules


Yes but an excuse can cover whoever imposes the rules. It is possible that the excuse of no one told us it was wrong what we did could apply to both the RFL and the government hypothetically.
Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:36 pm  
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Yes but an excuse can cover whoever imposes the rules. It is possible that the excuse of no one told us it was wrong what we did could apply to both the RFL and the government hypothetically.


So?

The RFL has no authority to fine anyone for breaching government rules, only the Police can do that. So Poptart is totally correct, we are ONLY talking RFL regulations here.

RFL regulations are not legally binding, however as it's their competition so if you want to play in it you comply as best you can, but technically they have no power whatsoever to fine anyone or to collect that fine. For that, they would need a court order, which they wouldn't get, so they couldn't send the bailiffs. If we were guilty of a criminal breach then the courts would pass it over to the Police and the CPS, not the RFL.

It's all very much a gentleman agreement.
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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:58 pm  
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If you wasn’t so protective I was merely stating the same same excuse can apply to either scenario. I was not unlike you making any judgment on this particular case because I don’t know. I guess the fact that you had to make such a lengthy detailed post is a victory when it actually has no bearing on my post and just proves how pompous you are.
Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:03 pm  
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If you wasn’t so protective I was merely stating the same same excuse can apply to either scenario. I was not unlike you making any judgment on this particular case because I don’t know. I guess the fact that you had to make such a lengthy detailed post is a victory when it actually has no bearing on my post and just proves how pompous you are.


I was merely backing PT's statement as factually correct, ie these are RFL regulations only, why do you find that so threatening?
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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:59 pm  
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It's more than a gentleman's agreement though.
The clubs signed up to this. So yes, they can't just fine someone based on them breaking covid rules......but if the agreement was that a particular failure was worthy of a fine, or docked points, or a player sitting out, then that sanction will be imposed by the RFL or Super League.
Just like if a player is sent off for a high tackle.
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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:24 pm  
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It's more than a gentleman's agreement though.
The clubs signed up to this. So yes, they can't just fine someone based on them breaking covid rules......but if the agreement was that a particular failure was worthy of a fine, or docked points, or a player sitting out, then that sanction will be imposed by the RFL or Super League.
Just like if a player is sent off for a high tackle.


It is in the eyes of the law, technically any club could fight any fine imposed by the RFL and win. Clearly, that would be stupid and bring about complete anarchy and end the competition in one stroke but that's the truth. The RFL can no more levy a binding fine than those non-council sanctioned companies who fine you for parking, which is why most people don't pay them.

Let us hope that this was merely an accidental breach and will be treated as such with just some words of warning. It was clearly nothing that could have been advantageous to us as it was only a pre-season game so I would hope for some discretion to be shown. After all, they relentlessly showed great discretion to certain clubs in the previous two seasons, SAINTS!
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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:46 pm  
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Re: Trinity under investigation. Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:00 pm  
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Only if something comes of it, otherwise no, what's the point?
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