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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:57 pm  
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Seriously does it matter, really?

He will either be good or he won’t. Hell he’s an inch shorter and half a stone lighter according to old data, he’s hardly turned out to be Danny Diveto has he :roll:


Might not matter to you (#dontcommentthen) but it will matter to some, whether that's Willie Poching or big kev from the pub. He'll be competing at the very top of the sport I the northern hemisphere. An inch here or 5lbs there could be the difference between being picked or someone else taking your spot.

Accurate information is essential not only for the analysts and coaches but the for the fans too.
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:12 pm  
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Accurate information is essential not only for the analysts and coaches but the for the fans too.


So don't look on Wikipedia then!
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:41 pm  
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Might not matter to you (#dontcommentthen) but it will matter to some, whether that's Willie Poching or big kev from the pub. He'll be competing at the very top of the sport I the northern hemisphere. An inch here or 5lbs there could be the difference between being picked or someone else taking your spot.

Accurate information is essential not only for the analysts and coaches but the for the fans too.


I'm pretty sure Willie has not decided to give him a contract based on his Wikipedia stats.
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:07 am  
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Might not matter to you (#dontcommentthen) but it will matter to some, whether that's Willie Poching or big kev from the pub. He'll be competing at the very top of the sport I the northern hemisphere. An inch here or 5lbs there could be the difference between being picked or someone else taking your spot.

Accurate information is essential not only for the analysts and coaches but the for the fans too.


So you think the club gets its info from me and Wikipedia do you? Ok matey if you say so.

Ditto you think that players get picked on whether they are one inch taller!

I’ll be sure to get my info to a more accurate tolerance in future, wouldn’t want to jeopardise his future.

Fifita still joining Leigh is he?
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:49 am  
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So you think the club gets its info from me and Wikipedia do you? Ok matey if you say so.

Ditto you think that players get picked on whether they are one inch taller!

I’ll be sure to get my info to a more accurate tolerance in future, wouldn’t want to jeopardise his future.

Fifita still joining Leigh is he?


Both very presumptuous to state Wiki, I never said which I thought was right or wrong just that multiple sources for the same information, that don't match is dangerous.

If you don't think that half an inch or 5lbs matters at the pinnacle of a sport, then you need to genuinely look into sport science and the research behind each and every player at the club. This isn't the 60's anymore, there are very few players who wi make the teamsheet without the statistics being reviewed first, which funnily enough would include height and weight. I'm not saying (weirdly never did) that Poching checks Wikipedia or the NRL site but as its accessible information to anyone, it is important that its accurate.

Strange thing to bring up on this thread, even stranger to compose your question like that. It almost suggests as if i said it was nailed on and not a rumour on the Leigh board. Now was it a genuine question or another pathetic attempt to try and bully someone on here?
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:05 am  
You are right it does matter, but only based on your accepted starting point.

If you want to talk sports science then great but that does not include unsubstantiated stats from Kevin on the Internet.

If you are signing someone you find out their actual stats yourself for a start off. And work out whether he is effective based on those stats.

PP is a good example. Does 5llbs matter to him. Yes. But not because he's too big or small but because he is unfit and less effective.

No one is going to look at Whitbread and say "oh I wish he was an inch taller"
They are going to assess, based on whatever height he is, whether he's effective at running with the ball or tackling.
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:39 am  
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You are right it does matter, but only based on your accepted starting point.

If you want to talk sports science then great but that does not include unsubstantiated stats from Kevin on the Internet.

If you are signing someone you find out their actual stats yourself for a start off. And work out whether he is effective based on those stats.

PP is a good example. Does 5llbs matter to him. Yes. But not because he's too big or small but because he is unfit and less effective.

No one is going to look at Whitbread and say "oh I wish he was an inch taller"
They are going to assess, based on whatever height he is, whether he's effective at running with the ball or tackling.

Point missed.
Others are quoting specific size/weight as a fact and a positive about a player on this forum themselves when there is recorded information on reputable websites such as the NRL league and Gold Coast Titans club websites which state differently.
I knew I would draw the response I did.
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:52 am  
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Point missed.
Others are quoting specific size/weight as a fact and a positive about a player on this forum themselves when there is recorded information on reputable websites such as the NRL league and Gold Coast Titans club websites which state differently.
I knew I would draw the response I did.


I was responding to Timmy where he said the difference mattered.
I've no problem with your post.
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:23 pm  
They always said Chris Annakin was too small & not heavy enough & he still got a game
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Re: Whitbread - we have our forward? : Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:37 pm  
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They always said Chris Annakin was too small & not heavy enough & he still got a game


I think you get a bit more leeway when you are a local squad player who has come up through the club. Can't be the same when you are bringing someone to use up a quota spot. Not criticising Whitbread btw just commenting on the Annakin analogy.
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